Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.

'First Date'


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Jessica - Jan 18, 2007 8:34:27 am PST #291 of 25496
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I use Entourage (Outlook for Mac), but it's not free so that's a strike against it. I think it will allow you to delete messages from the server on an individual basis, but I don't have it in front of me right now.


Rob - Jan 18, 2007 8:58:05 am PST #292 of 25496

Firstly, it doesn't let me remove messages from the server on a message by message basis (it has to be set for the whole account and happens when mail is checked).

I think if you uncheck the option to move deleted messages to the trash, Mail.app will work as you desire.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 9:06:08 am PST #293 of 25496
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks Rob. I'm trying that right now. It's a bit suboptimal if the message doesn't go into my local trash bin, since I do check it every now and again between cleanouts.

Hmm. Gave it about 5 minutes (rechecked mail a couple times too) and the message is still on the server. Eudora deletes it next time it goes to check. When would Mail do it?

Also--is the signature bug a known thing? If so, you wouldn't happen to be able to point me towards a workaround or something?


Tom Scola - Jan 18, 2007 9:12:04 am PST #294 of 25496
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I think if you uncheck the option to move deleted messages to the trash, Mail.app will work as you desire.

I'm not sure, since I'm not sitting front of a Mac right now, but I think that only works with IMAP accounts, not POP.


Rob - Jan 18, 2007 11:58:38 am PST #295 of 25496

I'm not sure, since I'm not sitting front of a Mac right now, but I think that only works with IMAP accounts, not POP.

Ooops, I was testing on IMAP.

Also--is the signature bug a known thing?

I did Google for the signature bug and didn't come up with anything.

In preferences under composing, what do you have "Send new mail from:" set to?


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 12:01:57 pm PST #296 of 25496
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In preferences under composing, what do you have "Send new mail from:" set to?

The address with the sigs. But when I'm replying to mail sent to another account, it comes up with the right email address and has the Signature option showing nothing but "None" which is selected. When I reselect it, the primary account sig disappears.

I'm going to try putting a blank sig in and tie it to one of the other accounts and see if that stops things.


esse - Jan 18, 2007 12:08:45 pm PST #297 of 25496
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I'm not sure, since I'm not sitting front of a Mac right now, but I think that only works with IMAP accounts, not POP.

it does with IMAP, but it's features are more limited with POP. I've liked using the mail.app with gmail, but it's annoying having to go back and filter/sort/delete messages on the web. I tend to migrate back and forth between using it on mail and using it on the web.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 1:54:49 pm PST #298 of 25496
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just don't get it. I've assigned that email account a simple signature, set Choose Signature to be Signature #34, the one I want, but when I reply to an email sent to it, although the identity is right, the Signature option says None, and I have a random sig from the other account. I can then choose Signature #34 and it cleans things up--no improvement at all.

I went and turned the main address signature option to None, and then there are no signatures for any of the other accounts unless chosen manually.

This is silly.

eta: it seems to pull new sigs from whatever account is selected to send new mail from, even when it's not sending mail from that account.


Rob - Jan 18, 2007 3:36:46 pm PST #299 of 25496

I'm seeing the same thing. It looks like a bug. Do you want to report it or should I?


Sean K - Jan 18, 2007 3:50:15 pm PST #300 of 25496
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, new question in my neverending computer upgrade:

I tried to hook my old hard drive up as a slave to the new 200gb drive. I set the jumper on the new one to "master with slave present." The old drive surprisingly does not have a jumper diagram on the outside. I left the jumper off that drive and hoped it would let the other drive's master setting and its cable position do the selecting, but when I turned it on like that, the computer didn't like that and decided there was no boot drive. I unhooked the old drive and booted up again.

So, my question is, are jumper setting more or less universal across similar drives (ATA)? Can I use the jumper diagram from another drive to figure out what setting to use on the old drive? Or would I be able to find jumper settings with just a little Google time?