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amych - Jan 18, 2007 7:44:16 am PST #279 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I use gmail by preference and Notes when forced to by work, but I know a lot of people (all platforms) love Thunderbird.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 7:48:29 am PST #280 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I use gmail as a repository, but the default client is currently handling 5 POP accounts and one IMAP one, so I think I need a thick client.

Off to look at Thunderbird.

Part of me thinks I should get off of Eudora on the PC, despite having used it for...shit, a fuck of a long time, or perhaps because I've been using it that long.


Ailleann - Jan 18, 2007 7:50:35 am PST #281 of 25501
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

ita, I just recently switched to Thunderbird from using Eudora for yonks, and I mostly like it. A few tiny annoyances, but overall it's good. I'm not using it as heftily as you are, though.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 7:53:55 am PST #282 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What annoyances, Ailleann? My PC install of Eudora is handling even more accounts, and I have a shitload of filtering--that migration is going to take me having fallen in a lot of love to move.

I also have some mailboxes saved from some really early installs of Eudora (I moved there from Pegasus Mail, which...wow, I wonder if that's still around), and I open them from time to time out of nostalgia.

I have a data packrat problem.

eta: Well, there's my first irritation with Thunderbird. It's not offering to import any of my settings, etc from the default mail client. It's the OS's default mail client! Grr.


Ailleann - Jan 18, 2007 7:59:19 am PST #283 of 25501
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I have a data packrat problem.

Ohhh, this is so me. Mine are really tiny things... I'm using it for one account, that doesn't get a lot of traffic anymore, so I don't have filters or anything. The mailboxes converted well, but the address book looked a little wonky when I attempted to convert. It may require a little manual conversion. My biggest thing is how quickly it qualifies a message as "read," and how when reading it automatically moves to the next message and marks it read before I even grok who it's from. Tiny, but incredibly annoying.

Actually, all things considered, if I could have I probably would have stayed with Eudora. I just didn't want to go through all the futzing that was cropping up when I switched machines, for an email that I'll probably phase out in the next six months.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 8:03:54 am PST #284 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I'm thinking Thunderbird for OS X will be a non-starter for me.

No option to import standard Mail data was bad enough, but it doesn't look like it's tied to OS X's address book. I am so not maintaining another address book on this computer--the OS X one is updated from my PDA (and therefore from my PC) whenever I synch up.

I do wish my PC email app used the Palm address book. That'd rock.

Am I blanching and turning away from Thunderbird too early? Is there address book synchronisation (not import) somewhere I'm missing it.

Unrelatedly: Is there a way in Firefox to type in a URL and not have it saved in the list under the location bar?


DXMachina - Jan 18, 2007 8:10:35 am PST #285 of 25501
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Part of me thinks I should get off of Eudora on the PC

I read somewhere that Eudora is soon going to be open sourcified, it that makes any difference.

Is there a way in Firefox to type in a URL and not have it saved in the list under the location bar?

Under privacy options, you can set a time of how long to save data like that to 0 days. Or you can delete them manually by opening the dropdown in the URL box, and hitting [shift][delete] for the ones you want to get rid of.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 8:16:04 am PST #286 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

[shift][delete]. Cool. I tried a couple different things including help and googling and didn't come up with much. I just want to be able to use some of the computers at krav without being stalked to my feeding grounds. Well, the network admin already knows many of the places I live, so I don't think he'd follow. Have to keep the others at bay.

I read somewhere that Eudora is soon going to be open sourcified, it that makes any difference.

That certainly makes it interesting. Eudora does do many of the things I need, and I'm certainly very familiar with it. I'm made curious about migration because of how solidly people stand behind Thunderbird--and from looking at the options of the OS X version of Thunderbird, at least I can import from Eudora.


Liese S. - Jan 18, 2007 8:18:19 am PST #287 of 25501
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

(I moved there from Pegasus Mail, which...wow, I wonder if that's still around)

Hee. My mom still uses this. I moved on years ago, but she still loves Pegasus and refuses to leave, even though she's otherwise technologically saavy and current.


Jon B. - Jan 18, 2007 8:18:31 am PST #288 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I tried switching from Eudora to Thunderbird a year or two ago(?). The conversion went pretty smoothly, but I quickly moved back when I discovered that Thunderbird didn\'t let me remove messages from the server on a message by message basis (ita\'s complaint on the OSX mail client).