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You'd probably get more response to your question here: sumi "Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!" May 29, 2007 6:36:27 pm PDT
(As this thread's where we talk about comics, Buffy and otherwise.)
I-I'm just taking things without paying for th... In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?
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P.M. Marc - Aug 21, 2007 7:01:54 pm PDT #851 of 5059
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
JZ - Aug 22, 2007 4:57:59 am PDT #852 of 5059
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
But an excellent question, and one well worth chewing over, so please do head over there! (Um, yeah, I bolted over to BUFFYNANGLE and then got all sad to see no new posts there.)
Thorny gender issues in genre TV (and, as Plei has written about extensively and gorgeously, comics) are, unfortunately, a perennial. Even on marvelously feminist Buffy -- dead good guys (recurring, name-in-the-title-sequence or guesting-for-at-least-a-full-season), female division: Anya, Tara, Joyce, Jenny Calendar; dead good guys (R, NITS or GFALAFS), male division: Um. Angel, kinda, Spike, kinda.
beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 6:09:25 am PDT #853 of 5059
Compassionately intolerant
I'd add Jonathan to that list of dead good guys. sorta.
SailAweigh - Aug 22, 2007 7:43:58 am PDT #854 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Even though he was more the bumbling mundane with no intent to harm than a real "good" guy, I think I'd include Principal Flutie, too. After all, he was a fuzzy-headed liberal. Poor bugger.
brenda m - Aug 22, 2007 7:46:59 am PDT #855 of 5059
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I don't think you can really count Flutie as part of the main cast. Snyder, maybe. Not Flutie.
JZ - Aug 22, 2007 7:59:58 am PDT #856 of 5059
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Jonathan, oh yes (how could I have forgotten him?), but Flutie wasn't even close to occupying the same recurring-character space as Jenny or Joyce or Tara or Anya.
Bleah. It's just...problematic. In order to level the playing/dying field, you've got to dig out really, really minor characters on one side to balance out the deeply rooted, longtime, extremely emotionally weighty characters on the other. And they really don't. And of course every death individually made perfect sense, was demanded by the narrative, increased the stakes, etc. etc. etc. But, still: Given that Joss and co. had already decided that no core characters were going to die (or, at least, die a no-takebacks no-resurrection no moving to another show Death), it's still at least mildly uncomfortable that all but one of the big heart-filled secondary characters to die were female. Of course, it's all positively hugs and puppies compared to AtS.
Ugh. This really needs to move to Buffy.
Laga - Aug 25, 2007 11:25:51 pm PDT #857 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
So you're in line at the airport reading a Buffy comic. What's the most embarrassing page you could possibly flip to when people are peeking over your shoulder? For me is was page three of Season 8 issue #3. I actually got that feeling of heat creeping up my neck that I used to get when I'd just said or done something really dorky in grade school.
sumi - Aug 28, 2007 12:09:13 pm PDT #858 of 5059
Art Crawl!!!
A page from the next arc of Buffy season 8.
Jon B. - Aug 28, 2007 12:10:55 pm PDT #859 of 5059
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
The Yellow Submarine shirt looks ridiculous!
sj - Aug 28, 2007 12:15:02 pm PDT #860 of 5059
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
A page from the next arc of Buffy season 8.
Very interesting. When does the next issue come out?