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Strega - Sep 11, 2013 3:48:13 pm PDT #4684 of 5059

I have no idea. I didn't see Superman Kills A Guy and have no interest in Superman and Batman Try To Kill Each Other. Just saying that "no kill no guns" hasn't really been an issue for the movies so far.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2013 7:11:32 am PDT #4685 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I was saying is that the Batman we've been shown isn't the Batman the article was about. He is basically no kill no guns, and if the author's point is that he'd let Superman die as collateral damage then it's a pretty weak plan.


Tom Scola - Sep 15, 2013 1:22:37 pm PDT #4686 of 5059
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1940s Justice League movie: [link]


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2013 11:25:31 am PDT #4687 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Would Wonder Woman v. Hulk be an interesting fight? Can they mano a mano?


Tom Scola - Sep 20, 2013 11:28:40 am PDT #4688 of 5059
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The Hulk is always as strong or as weak as the plot calls for.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2013 12:00:18 pm PDT #4689 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But is Diana?

"Some" folks are talking like once the Avengers kryptonite out Superman, the Hulk can just plow through the rest of the JLA.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 20, 2013 1:17:39 pm PDT #4690 of 5059
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DC characters have generally had wider scope/bigger-scaled powers, at least at the top tiers of heroes. If Diana can take on Superman or Orion in hand-to-hand combat (and she can), I'd think she can handle anything the Hulk can throw her way on strength and martial training alone. That's before you factor in things like flight, the magic lasso, and her more ephemeral gifts from the gods that would probably let her talk him down from a fight.

I'd say that the Martian Manhunter and the Green Lantern du jour can also bring enough raw force to bear to hold their own against the Hulk, and both have far more versatile power sets than he.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2013 1:36:38 pm PDT #4691 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Diana can take on Superman or Orion in hand-to-hand combat (and she can)

That was basically my thinking--she doesn't have the range of powers Supes has accumulated over the years, but she can take Kryptonian beating while dishing out Themyisciran whupass, and that's gotta count for some shit. I feel like some places (called IO9) are operating under 100% "We've got a Hulk" infallibility. Thanks for nothing, Joss. Well, thanks for some stuff, anyway.


Polter-Cow - Sep 20, 2013 2:25:57 pm PDT #4692 of 5059
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"Some"

Translation: io9?

I feel like some places (called IO9)

I know you well.


Tom Scola - Oct 11, 2013 2:13:26 pm PDT #4693 of 5059
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Stephanie Brown to appear in the New 52: [link]