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Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

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Polter-Cow - Mar 12, 2012 6:51:45 am PDT #4040 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I loved Mark Waid's run on Fantastic Four. Any other good FF stories out there?


DavidS - Mar 12, 2012 7:07:59 am PDT #4041 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any other good FF stories out there?

You mean aside from the original Kirby/Lee which redefined super hero comics in the sixties and were the benchmark for a decade?


Polter-Cow - Mar 12, 2012 7:12:45 am PDT #4042 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yes. I shall keep my eye out for the Essential collection or something since those should be fun to read.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 12, 2012 7:49:32 am PDT #4043 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Most of the John Byrne run from #232 to 295 (I'd recommend stopping after #277 when editorial interference kicked in) is considered a classic of the title as well.


DavidS - Mar 12, 2012 8:00:10 am PDT #4044 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, I liked the John Byrne run. Better actually than his Superman reboot.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 12, 2012 9:39:21 am PDT #4045 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It was one title where his "Back! Back to the way it was when first published, I say!" modus operandi REALLY suited the characters. He took them back to the emotional core of the Lee/Kirby days, with bonus smarts and agency for Sue.

And I still think his take on Doctor Doom was the definitive one.


DavidS - Mar 12, 2012 9:53:31 am PDT #4046 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

with bonus smarts and agency for Sue.

His remake of Sue was definitely a high point not only for his run but for the character.


Polter-Cow - Mar 12, 2012 9:55:19 am PDT #4047 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I really liked Sue! She seems like she's a pretty great strong female character for comics.


DavidS - Mar 12, 2012 10:53:31 am PDT #4048 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She seems like she's a pretty great strong female character for comics.

She didn't used to be. She was the wimpiest simp in the Marvel universe. But Byrne's remake of her was true to her roots and let her grow up and into her powers.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2012 3:19:10 pm PDT #4049 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Alan Moore goes off again: [link]

If people do want to go out and buy these Watchmen prequels, they would be doing me an enormous favor if they would just stop buying my other books.