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Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Tom Scola - Sep 29, 2011 6:10:41 am PDT #3865 of 5059
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

The really annoying thing about it is that DC sold so many comics this month, that this is going to be seen as a success. But Didio has done a really good job of alienating the fans, and alienating the talent; he's done some really major long-term damage to the brand. It may be years before it becomes apparent how bad the damage is. By then Didio will have been promoted or moved on, and he won't ever have to deal with the consequences of what he did.


Steph L. - Sep 29, 2011 6:13:46 am PDT #3866 of 5059
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

It may be years before it becomes apparent how bad the damage is.

Do you think it'll be that long? I think there will be a steep drop-off in October -- I think the huge numbers in September were people who were curious about the reboot and collectors who wanted #1s.

I've heard several comic store owners worrying about December/January, because they think by then DC will have dropped several of the lowest-selling titles and the readers will have stopped buying a lot of them because they're crappy and the reboot was a poorly conceived gimmick in a panicked response to Marvel having almost 50% of the sales numbers.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2011 6:17:21 am PDT #3867 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the unquestionable success of the relaunch

How can you know that with the first month not even complete? Their plan cannot possibly be that shortsighted. If they are paying attention to survey results like mine, they'll get that I bought a lot more titles this month than I intended to keep up with. Even if I liked them all, I probably wouldn't have kept more than 4 or so. I doubt I'm that atypical.


Tom Scola - Sep 29, 2011 6:19:58 am PDT #3868 of 5059
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I'm guessing that the short-term results will be a wash; DC's sales will go back to about the same as they were before. The real long term damage is all the old readers who have been turned off of DC forever, all of the new readers who have had all of their stereotypes about comics confirmed, and all the talent who will never work at DC again. That will take longer to play out.


askye - Sep 29, 2011 6:27:11 am PDT #3869 of 5059
Thrive to spite them

I did the survey and said I bought a title when I hadn't. I was planning on starting to read just 1 title but after what they did I've decided not to.

So, I said that I've always been more of a Marvel fan, but I liked some of the DC characters and was going to use this reboot as a way to get back into DC comics. But with the changes to the female characters it felt like a big "No girls allowed" thing so I was going to oblige them and spend my money elsewhere. Like maybe spend more money at Marvel. (Not that I'm reading comics, it got to expensive because I kept buying more and more titles and back issues).

After the survey I realized it feels like the female characters went from being well rounded, interesting people to Real Dolls.


Tom Scola - Oct 01, 2011 3:14:37 pm PDT #3870 of 5059
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Young Justice: is Atemis' sister Cheshire?


Kalshane - Oct 01, 2011 7:09:31 pm PDT #3871 of 5059
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Young Justice: is Atemis' sister Cheshire?

I haven't seen tonight's episode, but that's been my impression.


Steph L. - Oct 03, 2011 3:28:07 am PDT #3872 of 5059
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

The real reason DC isn't acknowledging Steph as Robin in the reboot: Tiny clones of me, assemble!


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2011 6:29:45 pm PDT #3873 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The new DC is crisis free. Or something.


msbelle - Oct 03, 2011 8:03:31 pm PDT #3874 of 5059
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS TALKED ABOUT IN HERE!!! I AM COVERING MY EYES IN CASE MY PRUDISH SENSIBILITIES WILL BE DISTURBED AND WILL JUST PLEADDDDD!!!! NATTER! I NEED NATTER!

attempts to run, but falls due to covered eyes