Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Tom Scola - Dec 07, 2009 7:50:29 am PST #2618 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

...And DC reaches for the reset button yet again: [link]


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2009 7:59:49 am PST #2619 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, it's only kinda a reset button. It doesn't affect any current titles. It's yet another universe.

Poor original Crisis. All for naught.


DavidS - Dec 07, 2009 8:00:18 am PST #2620 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

...And DC reaches for the reset button yet again: [link]

I think they should just acknowledge the necessity to reset or wriggle out from under continuity and build it into the plan, that way fans wouldn't be pissed or feel betrayed.

Like, have a set five year plan. Let your writers do whatever they want for five years, let characters live and die and change and then put an end-stop on that cycle at five years and get everybody geared up for a new cycle.

Then it would be more like the fond way Dr. Who fans compare different Doctors than the bitter way comic fans talk about resets and tortured continuity. "Yeah, Cycle 2 Batman was fantastic, but I actually preferred the Batman/Robin Dynamic in Cycle 5."


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2009 8:12:38 am PST #2621 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But with this they aren't torturing continuity. They're writing another Batman and Superman. So you can compare that Batman to others. Just that "ours" has long lost any meaning.


Tom Scola - Dec 07, 2009 8:15:17 am PST #2622 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Yeah, manga are kicking the USAs collective ass, and the companies aren't learning from them.

Instead of relying on hot shit writers and artists, things ought to be done like manga, with a team of writers and artists working out of their own studio, with all the artwork on model, and with an overreaching story arc that comes to a definite conclusion.


Polter-Cow - Dec 07, 2009 8:22:36 am PST #2623 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

with all the artwork on model

What does this mean?

The Earth One stuff sounds interesting.

Like, have a set five year plan. Let your writers do whatever they want for five years, let characters live and die and change and then put an end-stop on that cycle at five years and get everybody geared up for a new cycle.

That's an interesting idea. I feel like that could get confusing too, having to deal with the continual resets. But I guess there are continual resets already, just unanticipated? I do like that some characters have a rich history and long story, even though it's hard to grok all of it happening to one person in comic-book time. I wouldn't want to erase it all. Maybe just...parts. The silly parts. I'm mostly coming from a Daredevil place here, since he's the long-running character I've read the most of.


Tom Scola - Dec 07, 2009 8:36:52 am PST #2624 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's an animation term. Animators are supposed to work from model sheets so that the drawings look consistent.


Strega - Dec 11, 2009 5:39:39 am PST #2625 of 5059

Grant Morrison and Andy Kubert are bringing us Pirate Batman.

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sumi - Dec 11, 2009 5:49:33 am PST #2626 of 5059
Art Crawl!!!

Must have Pirate Bats.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 11, 2009 6:59:27 am PST #2627 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So, the Dread Pirate Batman, then?