Removing the Spidey/MJ marriage was not a retcon.
It most definitely was a retroactive change of continuity.
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Tom Scola - Nov 20, 2009 9:27:49 am PST #2576 of 5059
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§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 9:30:11 am PST #2577 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It most definitely was a retroactive change of continuity.
But it was changing the past moving forward. From that point on, the marriage had never happened. If they explained that the marriage had always never happened (you just thought it had, for some strange reason) then that would be a retcon.
Steph L. - Nov 20, 2009 9:41:19 am PST #2578 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism
How do you punch reality? If I punched this table hard enough would I crack Earth 3?
Are you Kryptonian?
I'm glad they brought up ruining Batgirl too.
That was a fucking travesty. Way worse, actually, than Superboy-Prime punching a hole in reality. That's just laughable. But Cassandra Cain was such a good goddamned character, from the time she was introduced in No Man's Land. And they just ruined her.
DavidS - Nov 20, 2009 9:45:28 am PST #2579 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
He did a retcon. Call a spade a spade. He just did one that people like.
I'm fine with calling it a retcon, I was just specifying it's the kind I usually have the most problem with: "It was a deluded plant spirit that thought it was Alec! But it wasn't him."
Okay, so that's an example of a good retcon.
What are some other good ones?
Steph L. - Nov 20, 2009 9:51:21 am PST #2580 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism
What are some other good ones?
In comics? I think Black Canary (Dinah Lance, not her mother) used to have to use a weird device to do the canary cry. And now she doesn't. The original makes more sense, but I thought the gadget thingy was weird. I like the current version better.
Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2009 9:55:39 am PST #2581 of 5059
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I'm not too familiar with the original origins of Spider-Woman, but Bendis's Spider-Woman: Origin story was really good and enjoyable, and I liked it even though according to Wikipedia various things were changed.
DavidS - Nov 20, 2009 9:56:20 am PST #2582 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I love Batman Year One. That's not entirely a retcon, except for Catwoman's story.
Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2009 9:58:13 am PST #2583 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Oh, David Mack had some great bits about the origins of Kingpin in Parts of a Hole, but I don't know whether they were retconny or not. They didn't seem to entirely match up with what Wikipedia had.
Tom Scola - Nov 20, 2009 9:58:46 am PST #2584 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
That's not entirely a retcon, except for Catwoman's story.
Which they've since retconned.
P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 10:02:10 am PST #2585 of 5059
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I'm not too familiar with the original origins of Spider-Woman, but Bendis's Spider-Woman: Origin story was really good and enjoyable, and I liked it even though according to Wikipedia various things were changed.
It's okay. Lacking the SERIOUSLY MADE OF AWESOME CRACKTASTICNESS of the original, though. Oh, Mark Gruenwald, why did you have to die young?