You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2007 9:41:43 am PST #9359 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read somewhere recently (online)...maybe it was a Dexter fanfic...about the idea of telling when someone's fallen asleep because they've started twitching. Is that really usable?


Amy - Jan 02, 2007 9:41:56 am PST #9360 of 10007
Because books.

When it comes to school, kindergarten is really a pretty good time. Yay for mac's first day, and fingers crossed the transitions just get easier.


bon bon - Jan 02, 2007 9:46:01 am PST #9361 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I read somewhere recently (online)...maybe it was a Dexter fanfic...about the idea of telling when someone's fallen asleep because they've started twitching. Is that really usable?

The hypnogagic thingee. If you mean "they're not asleep if they haven't twitched" it's probably not true. If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME. Happens all the time chez bon-Bob.


Nutty - Jan 02, 2007 9:47:05 am PST #9362 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I read somewhere recently (online)...maybe it was a Dexter fanfic...about the idea of telling when someone's fallen asleep because they've started twitching. Is that really usable?

[link] This claims that things "may" twitch in REM sleep. But REM isn't the first stage of sleep you fall into. If you twitched all night long, then it might be a good tell; but in most of the stages you lie completely still.

(The quasi-paralysis of deep sleep is supposed to be one of the "causes" of alien abduction delusions, as well as night terrors.)


Steph L. - Jan 02, 2007 9:48:30 am PST #9363 of 10007
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME.

And the corollary of "If they've twitched because they've fallen asleep, and you're in bed snuggled up next to them but are not *quite* asleep yet, then you WILL be jolted fully awake" is ALSO true. At least Chez Tep.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2007 9:51:23 am PST #9364 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME. Happens all the time chez bon-Bob.

Hmm. I just twitch. I mean, when I lie down. I'm about to lie down to watch more Torchwood, and I can guarantee that within fifteen minutes (wait, my leg just twitched and I'm still sitting up) I'll have twitched two or three times.

Man, I wish I had someone in my bed to fool with that.


Nutty - Jan 02, 2007 9:51:54 am PST #9365 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

See, I twitch myself awake, sometimes, when I'm in shallow sleep. So if you tried to use twitching as a tell for me, you'd see me twitch, go "Yep, she's asleep!" and then I wouldn't be any more and I would catch you breaking in to my house.

I hate those wake-up twitches, because I wake with the impression I'd just been falling or fighting.


Connie Neil - Jan 02, 2007 9:52:37 am PST #9366 of 10007
brillig

Whereas in Chez Neil, it's "if you wake up to a husband staring at you accusingly and the cats cowering at the foot of the bed, yes, you 'twitched' in your sleep."


msbelle - Jan 02, 2007 9:53:42 am PST #9367 of 10007
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

what buffista lives closest to ita? cause I think she just asked for a sleepover.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2007 9:54:54 am PST #9368 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

With cuddling.

Okay, off to watch TW and then apply for some more jobs.