I read somewhere recently (online)...maybe it was a Dexter fanfic...about the idea of telling when someone's fallen asleep because they've started twitching. Is that really usable?

The hypnogagic thingee. If you mean "they're not asleep if they haven't twitched" it's probably not true. If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME. Happens all the time chez bon-Bob.

I read somewhere recently (online)...maybe it was a Dexter fanfic...about the idea of telling when someone's fallen asleep because they've started twitching. Is that really usable?

[link] This claims that things "may" twitch in REM sleep. But REM isn't the first stage of sleep you fall into. If you twitched all night long, then it might be a good tell; but in most of the stages you lie completely still.

(The quasi-paralysis of deep sleep is supposed to be one of the "causes" of alien abduction delusions, as well as night terrors.)

If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME.

And the corollary of "If they've twitched because they've fallen asleep, and you're in bed snuggled up next to them but are not *quite* asleep yet, then you WILL be jolted fully awake" is ALSO true. At least Chez Tep.

If you mean "if they twitched they've fallen asleep" then that is true IME. Happens all the time chez bon-Bob.

Hmm. I just twitch. I mean, when I lie down. I'm about to lie down to watch more Torchwood, and I can guarantee that within fifteen minutes (wait, my leg just twitched and I'm still sitting up) I'll have twitched two or three times.

Man, I wish I had someone in my bed to fool with that.

See, I twitch myself awake, sometimes, when I'm in shallow sleep. So if you tried to use twitching as a tell for me, you'd see me twitch, go "Yep, she's asleep!" and then I wouldn't be any more and I would catch you breaking in to my house.

I hate those wake-up twitches, because I wake with the impression I'd just been falling or fighting.

Whereas in Chez Neil, it's "if you wake up to a husband staring at you accusingly and the cats cowering at the foot of the bed, yes, you 'twitched' in your sleep."

what buffista lives closest to ita? cause I think she just asked for a sleepover.

With cuddling.

Okay, off to watch TW and then apply for some more jobs.

I don't remember if I was dreaming, but I had a major twitch once and fell off the top bunk. I woke up in mid-air and started laughing when I hit the floor.

This information may be helpful, ita: [link]

I woke up in mid-air and started laughing when I hit the floor.

bon was born to laugh at danger.