This is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet.

Snyder ,'Chosen'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Dec 19, 2006 7:08:26 am PST #6953 of 10007
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

David Morse is currently guest-appearing as Inspector JavertDetective Tritter on House, and making Dr House's miserable life even more miserable, if that's possible. (Not that it's undeserved.)


Connie Neil - Dec 19, 2006 7:13:05 am PST #6954 of 10007
brillig

I understand the urge for revenge, and I don't hold it against anyone. I don't call it justice, though. To me, justice is letting the courts deal with it--and hopefully putting the creep away for a long, long time.


DavidS - Dec 19, 2006 7:22:36 am PST #6955 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm sorry, I am not following who is who, here. Who stood by? Who is David Morse, in this?

Damn, my poor pronoun command! The who with the what with the how?

Let's see, the actor who used to play Art Donovan on Lou Grant? He was the husband. We'll call him Art. David Morse played a doctor on St. Elsewhere. His nickname was Boomer. Then there was the bad guy who killed Art's wife. They made him extra bad and taunty and the episode was mostly about Boomer having to treat the evil rapist scum because that's what doctors have to do. Treat people - even bad people.

Anyway, Art came in and shot the bad guy. He went to jail for it. The following season Boomer was volunteering at the prison when a riot broke out. He was trapped in the medical clinic with Art and Art's Prison Daddy. Prison Daddy proceeded to rape Boomer while Art refused to stop him.

Wheel of Morality turn and turn. Tell us the lesson that we must learn. That while the appeal of vengeful violence is obvious, it tends to perpetuate and cause other damages down the road.

Which I do think is true. (cf., the Middle East, tribal retribution etc.)


Jesse - Dec 19, 2006 7:33:50 am PST #6956 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really need to get St. Elsewhere on DVD.

In other exciting news, EM got another freaky note in her mailbox. This one warning her to "be careful, now."

Oh, ugh. Also, yikes. And other inarticulate expressions of "How terrible, and I hope that shit gets taken care of."


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 7:34:56 am PST #6957 of 10007
Now tagless for your comfort.

Maybe I'm obtuse, but that seems a morally ambiguous lesson, to me. The only guy that did the right thing was the one that got fucked. Was he just collateral damage of the lesson Art was supposed to learn from his righteous vengence?


Amy - Dec 19, 2006 7:38:13 am PST #6958 of 10007
Because books.

God, I forgot about that storyline. David Morse rook so much shit on St. Elsewhere, I wonder if that's why he's so often played bad guys since.

Hec, I hope the police figure out who is harrassing EM this way. If I were her, I'd be terrified. Are they sure it's not the ex?


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 7:40:30 am PST #6959 of 10007
Now tagless for your comfort.

I just saw the ending scene of St. Elsewhere on I Love the 80's. DH asked if it was out on DVD. Is it? I think I should go back and watch more of it.


bon bon - Dec 19, 2006 7:42:09 am PST #6960 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I never watched St. Elsewhere, but I like Morse on House. Too bad his character is so ridiculous, I was thinking this morning that the show would have been better off had it made the third season villian a Kraken. I would much better suspend my disbelief if a fictional underwater dragon was patrolling the fountain out front, occasionally stealing people's wallets and civil rights. Those are some magical powers I can believe.


Aims - Dec 19, 2006 7:45:46 am PST #6961 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Gah, Hec. I don't know what to say about EM. Definitely {{{}}} and ~ma that this insanity stops. And ~ma for everyone's safety and this jackoff that is effing with her gets caught and goes away for along long time.


DavidS - Dec 19, 2006 7:47:10 am PST #6962 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Maybe I'm obtuse, but that seems a morally ambiguous lesson, to me.

Oh yeah, they were all about the moral ambiguity.

The only guy that did the right thing was the one that got fucked.

Well, both Art and Boomer got fucked. Literally. Which I think was part of the St. Elsewhere vision. Being good didn't guarantee the universe was going to be kind.

Was he just collateral damage of the lesson Art was supposed to learn from his righteous vengence?

You know they just loved torturing Boomer. David Morse was just so good at suffering. They killed off his wife too.

S1 of St. Elsewhere just came out.