At least it's nice to have insomnia have some bonus, after all.
I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.
Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Theodosia - Dec 03, 2006 2:25:34 am PST #4183 of 10007
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Nutty - Dec 03, 2006 3:55:03 am PST #4184 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I'd posit that, because we have to spend 50 posts discussing varying standards of beauty, whereas nobody is disputing standards of tallness, that the two are orthogonal. One can be tall relative to context, as when I went in heels to a wedding where the participants were 5'2" and 5'5" and I felt like a giraffe, but one is or is not tall, and one can measure that against medians/means of the population.
Ye canna quantitatively score for beauty. It seems more like 'family resemblance theory,' where you class several things together because they seem to belong together, but you can't formally describe any one thing they have in common.
However, I will agree that "everyone's beautiful in their own way" is as mealy-mouthed and diluting-the-meaning as "everyone's smart in their own way." If you want a word to be meaningful, then it can't describe everything in the universe.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2006 3:55:49 am PST #4185 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Charlie Brown Christmas alternate ending: [link]
Language is NSFW. Also, don't watch with children around.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2006 4:12:02 am PST #4186 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
brenda m - Dec 03, 2006 4:29:53 am PST #4187 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Okay, I think it is absolutely a good idea to give a little refresher on Pinochet while reporting on his apparently imminent demise. But do you have to preface it with "now you may remember his name..."
Sheryl - Dec 03, 2006 5:54:07 am PST #4188 of 10007
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Quiet day today. Catch up on some tapes, go to the supermarket, that sort of thing...
Hil R. - Dec 03, 2006 6:01:29 am PST #4189 of 10007
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Timelies.
My day is pretty much going to be grading, and trying to do something to make my sinuses stop hurting.
I'm still a little bit too asleep to compose anything sensical about beauty.
Jesse - Dec 03, 2006 6:06:28 am PST #4190 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Comes from absorbing too much media about models or cheerleaders or makeovers or celebrities without makeup oh noes.
My coworker totally just gave me the Star magazine with celebrities without makeup oh noes, and you know what? It made me feel awesome! Because they do look like crap! IOW, I do believe that most "beauty" in our society is manufactured.
At least in the last few centuries, beauty was completely worhtless next to the possibility of increasing wealth. A woman's value was the wealth of her family far more than her looks.
Definitely in the "daughter of the king" example -- I'm pretty sure the daughter of the king was more a strategic asset than anything else, at least in recent-history Europe.
Jesse - Dec 03, 2006 6:14:14 am PST #4191 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
In other news, Aimee should be jealous of Ellen DeGeneres -- Minnie Driver gave her a camel for Christmas! There's a real camel on-set! OK, she's not actually going to keep it -- Minnie is promoting holiday giving to Oxfam, which is doing a Heifer Project type thing.
Jessica - Dec 03, 2006 6:17:40 am PST #4192 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
At least in the last few centuries, beauty was completely worthless next to the possibility of increasing wealth. A woman's value was the wealth of her family far more than her looks.
I think it's a tough distinction to make, since standards of beauty have been almost always been historically defined as "what the upper class wants to look like." (And until relatively recently, money was equated with health, since if you weren't rich, you were probably starving.)