I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Dec 03, 2006 3:55:49 am PST #4185 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Charlie Brown Christmas alternate ending: [link]

Language is NSFW. Also, don't watch with children around.


tommyrot - Dec 03, 2006 4:12:02 am PST #4186 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Tony v. Paul

Awesome stop motion fight. Just turn off your brain and enjoy.

It is pretty cool....


brenda m - Dec 03, 2006 4:29:53 am PST #4187 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Okay, I think it is absolutely a good idea to give a little refresher on Pinochet while reporting on his apparently imminent demise. But do you have to preface it with "now you may remember his name..."


Sheryl - Dec 03, 2006 5:54:07 am PST #4188 of 10007
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Quiet day today. Catch up on some tapes, go to the supermarket, that sort of thing...


Hil R. - Dec 03, 2006 6:01:29 am PST #4189 of 10007
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Timelies.

My day is pretty much going to be grading, and trying to do something to make my sinuses stop hurting.

I'm still a little bit too asleep to compose anything sensical about beauty.


Jesse - Dec 03, 2006 6:06:28 am PST #4190 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Comes from absorbing too much media about models or cheerleaders or makeovers or celebrities without makeup oh noes.

My coworker totally just gave me the Star magazine with celebrities without makeup oh noes, and you know what? It made me feel awesome! Because they do look like crap! IOW, I do believe that most "beauty" in our society is manufactured.

At least in the last few centuries, beauty was completely worhtless next to the possibility of increasing wealth. A woman's value was the wealth of her family far more than her looks.

Definitely in the "daughter of the king" example -- I'm pretty sure the daughter of the king was more a strategic asset than anything else, at least in recent-history Europe.


Jesse - Dec 03, 2006 6:14:14 am PST #4191 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In other news, Aimee should be jealous of Ellen DeGeneres -- Minnie Driver gave her a camel for Christmas! There's a real camel on-set! OK, she's not actually going to keep it -- Minnie is promoting holiday giving to Oxfam, which is doing a Heifer Project type thing.


Jessica - Dec 03, 2006 6:17:40 am PST #4192 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

At least in the last few centuries, beauty was completely worthless next to the possibility of increasing wealth. A woman's value was the wealth of her family far more than her looks.

I think it's a tough distinction to make, since standards of beauty have been almost always been historically defined as "what the upper class wants to look like." (And until relatively recently, money was equated with health, since if you weren't rich, you were probably starving.)


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2006 6:19:22 am PST #4193 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They're still valued for their beauty, its just a different standard of beauty.

It doesn't matter WHAT the standard is, beauty ends up being the #1 again and again.

Beauty as indicators of status or wealth or value to the family is, I posit, a practical definition and using physical traits as shorthand--we're back to dowry and ability to bear children expressed visually.


brenda m - Dec 03, 2006 6:45:42 am PST #4194 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ooh, I know what next week's cupcakes will be (assuming I more or less stick to the rest of my diet, which is the deal I've made with myself):

Ginger Pumpkin: Ginger cake with Pumpkin buttercream topped with Candied Ginger

Mexican Hot Chocolate: Spiced Chocolate cake with White Chocolate buttercream topped with Cinnamon Mini Marshmallows