Hell, I don't know. If I had wanted schooling, I'da gone to school.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


Spike's Bitches 33: Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


WindSparrow - Dec 18, 2006 7:12:50 pm PST #6340 of 10004
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

They are MORALLY WRONG and also SINNERS.

Ok, here's the deal: What I learned in Sunday School, church, and Bible club was that the word "sin" means "missing the mark". The fact that I have hideously poor hand-to-eye coordination means that I am inherently, by nature, without volition, a huge sinner. After a couple decades of bearing the shame of that sin, I realized that if that's what sin really is, then sin really isn't as big a deal as I thought it was.

ETA: I gotta add that this hasn't made me turn my back on having principles, ethics, morals, what-have-you - more that I am now much more likely to see "sin" as easily forgivable (both my own, and others') human foibles. And maybe that's what Jesus really wanted to get across, anyway.

Hugs and ~ma to them that needs 'em.


libkitty - Dec 18, 2006 7:23:19 pm PST #6341 of 10004
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

::hugs Andi::

Of course, I also think we should just have universal health care, which would solve the problem from both ends.

That would solve the health care issue, which is a big part of it, and I totally agree that should happen.

What frustrates me is that there are all sorts of unconventional families out there that work, but could work a lot better if people weren't so pigheaded. I've used before the example of two sisters who are single moms. One works outside of the home and the other takes care of all the kids. So, there's the health insurance issue for the stay at home mom and her kids, but there's also no retirement for her, no subsidized life insurance, nada.

A recent lawsuit has required the State of Alaska to provide benefits for same-sex partners, once they jump through hoops to prove that they're in a committed, homosexual relationship. However, if I understand the rules correctly, if they were friends who were committed to a long-term, nonsexual relationship and averse to telling lies, or the sisters I mentioned above, they would not be eligible for benefits. Of course, it's probably all for naught anyway: [link] Try BugMeNot for access.


Volans - Dec 19, 2006 1:30:02 am PST #6342 of 10004
move out and draw fire

I personally think that being able to construct a sentence in which the noun and verb agree is a necessary first step to critical thinking, so I wasn't able to get through the rest of Aimee's classmate's post.

Critical thinking is actually very tricky and difficult to do, and I've found that most people who are convinced they are good at it, or are doing it, aren't.

ION, I've been spending the morning counseling my DH. He's having a lot of cognitive dissonance between how he perceives himself and how other people perceive him. This has always happened, but he just had 3 whammies in a row: The Great Fat Caliper Fight of Ought-Six, a personal discussion where someone invited him to play games, and a professional thing where a foreign diplomat said he was undiplomatic.

(Interrupt: MY EYES!!!! I just had to see my cow-orker in his Speedos.)

Anyway, short form is that the DH comes across as being really negative and controlling and borderline asshole, and he really doesn't want to or think he is, and it's disturbing him that he can't accurately calibrate his behavior to the situation and the people. Now, in the "undiplomatic" situation, all the other Americans in the room have been stunned by the accusation, because they thought he was very diplomatic, so that could be a cultural thing. But I've seen this same pattern for the last 20 years, and I am out of ideas.

How do you get outside yourself and judge how you are coming across to people?


Anne W. - Dec 19, 2006 1:37:55 am PST #6343 of 10004
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

the other Americans in the room have been stunned by the accusation, because they thought he was very diplomatic, so that could be a cultural thing.

It could also be a "the other diplomat is an asshole" thing. Raq, the fact that he's realized the divide between his perception and others' is a big leap, and that should give him some hope.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 2:03:31 am PST #6344 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

How do you get outside yourself and judge how you are coming across to people?

I think some people have a lot more ability for introspection than others. The fact that he realizes there is a gap between how he perceives himeself and how others perceive him is a good sign. I also think that it can be a really long and painful process. With my twin sister, I had to become her reality mirror and provide her with some painful truths because she lacks a lot of that introspection ability. I think it helps when you can have someone around that you trust 100% to provide you with a reality check and can open your eyes without hurting your feelings too much.

Someone needs to shoot me in the head so I can get some sleep.

11:30 p.m. Liv starts a nighttime crying jag and won't go back to sleep.
1:00 a.m. I finally head to bed to try to get some sleep.
2:00 a.m. DH gets Olivia asleep and in bed.
2:30 a.m. Dogs whine. DH fills their water dish.
3:00 a.m. Dogs bark to go out. I get up and let them outside.
5:30 a.m. Liv cries out again but goes back to sleep on her own.
6:15 a.m. Cat risks his life by meowing and clawing at my bedroom door.
6:30 a.m. I lie awake, tensely waiting for one of the kids to wake up.
6:45 a.m. I finally say fuck it and am up for the day.

GRONK.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 2:59:11 am PST #6345 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

Both kids were up by 7:45. I found two spots where the cat barfed on the furniture after chewing on the Christmas tree.

I give up.

Universe, you win.


Ginger - Dec 19, 2006 3:10:48 am PST #6346 of 10004
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Even after you surrender, the universe keeps beating on you anyway. The universe has no respect for the white flag.

Sorry your day had such a bad start, Cash.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 3:13:04 am PST #6347 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm keeping in mind that it could always get worse, Ginger. So there's that.

Kids are chomping on bagels and Sam's outside getting into the trash.

If you listen carefully, you can hear the sound of my mother, laughing her ass off.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 19, 2006 3:17:21 am PST #6348 of 10004
What is even happening?

Cashmere, how is your back doing? Are you still thinking about the surgery, or when the shot kicked in, did that make you decide to wait some more?

Dear Liv,

He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. Right now? He knows too much. Knock it off.

Love,
Auntie Cindy

P.S. You might want to tell the puppers that Mommy hasn't yet bought the Christmas roast. ijs


WindSparrow - Dec 19, 2006 3:20:52 am PST #6349 of 10004
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Poor Cash. I hope you get a chance at a good nap later today.

Raq, does your hubby have Attention Deficit issues? If so, this book - What Does Everyone Else Know that I Don't? - was written to help. It's one of the odd things about AD/HD that although people who have it are often extremely sensitive in many ways, they also miss the boat on important social cues. The book could be extremely useful for people with other diagnoses, but it was written specifically for those with AD/HD. [link]