Angel: Eve. So, I guess we should, I don't know, talk? Eve: About what? Angel: About what happened back there with us. Eve: Angel, it's not like this is the first time I've had sex under a mystical influence. I went to U.C. Santa Cruz.

'Life of the Party'


Spike's Bitches 33: Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Anne W. - Dec 19, 2006 1:37:55 am PST #6343 of 10004
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

the other Americans in the room have been stunned by the accusation, because they thought he was very diplomatic, so that could be a cultural thing.

It could also be a "the other diplomat is an asshole" thing. Raq, the fact that he's realized the divide between his perception and others' is a big leap, and that should give him some hope.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 2:03:31 am PST #6344 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

How do you get outside yourself and judge how you are coming across to people?

I think some people have a lot more ability for introspection than others. The fact that he realizes there is a gap between how he perceives himeself and how others perceive him is a good sign. I also think that it can be a really long and painful process. With my twin sister, I had to become her reality mirror and provide her with some painful truths because she lacks a lot of that introspection ability. I think it helps when you can have someone around that you trust 100% to provide you with a reality check and can open your eyes without hurting your feelings too much.

Someone needs to shoot me in the head so I can get some sleep.

11:30 p.m. Liv starts a nighttime crying jag and won't go back to sleep.
1:00 a.m. I finally head to bed to try to get some sleep.
2:00 a.m. DH gets Olivia asleep and in bed.
2:30 a.m. Dogs whine. DH fills their water dish.
3:00 a.m. Dogs bark to go out. I get up and let them outside.
5:30 a.m. Liv cries out again but goes back to sleep on her own.
6:15 a.m. Cat risks his life by meowing and clawing at my bedroom door.
6:30 a.m. I lie awake, tensely waiting for one of the kids to wake up.
6:45 a.m. I finally say fuck it and am up for the day.

GRONK.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 2:59:11 am PST #6345 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

Both kids were up by 7:45. I found two spots where the cat barfed on the furniture after chewing on the Christmas tree.

I give up.

Universe, you win.


Ginger - Dec 19, 2006 3:10:48 am PST #6346 of 10004
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Even after you surrender, the universe keeps beating on you anyway. The universe has no respect for the white flag.

Sorry your day had such a bad start, Cash.


Cashmere - Dec 19, 2006 3:13:04 am PST #6347 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm keeping in mind that it could always get worse, Ginger. So there's that.

Kids are chomping on bagels and Sam's outside getting into the trash.

If you listen carefully, you can hear the sound of my mother, laughing her ass off.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 19, 2006 3:17:21 am PST #6348 of 10004
What is even happening?

Cashmere, how is your back doing? Are you still thinking about the surgery, or when the shot kicked in, did that make you decide to wait some more?

Dear Liv,

He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. Right now? He knows too much. Knock it off.

Love,
Auntie Cindy

P.S. You might want to tell the puppers that Mommy hasn't yet bought the Christmas roast. ijs


WindSparrow - Dec 19, 2006 3:20:52 am PST #6349 of 10004
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Poor Cash. I hope you get a chance at a good nap later today.

Raq, does your hubby have Attention Deficit issues? If so, this book - What Does Everyone Else Know that I Don't? - was written to help. It's one of the odd things about AD/HD that although people who have it are often extremely sensitive in many ways, they also miss the boat on important social cues. The book could be extremely useful for people with other diagnoses, but it was written specifically for those with AD/HD. [link]


Laura - Dec 19, 2006 3:25:36 am PST #6350 of 10004
Our wings are not tired.

{{Cashmere}} Lack of sleep makes all the other stuff so much worse. No letting the universe win though. Snarl at it some. Kick it in the shins.

How do you get outside yourself and judge how you are coming across to people?

A most difficult process. But a huge step to see that he needs to do this. I think it would be very tough to take on the role of being his reality check as a spouse. Encouraging him to keep a journal of personal encounters to more carefully examine them himself might help.

There have been a couple times in my life where I was perceived as a person I am not and it was very upsetting. I think I would have been too defensive to easily accept help with it and had to work it out myself. (being defensive one of my issues)


Laura - Dec 19, 2006 3:29:49 am PST #6351 of 10004
Our wings are not tired.

That book looks really interesting Andi.


vw bug - Dec 19, 2006 3:42:19 am PST #6352 of 10004
Mostly lurking...

I personally think that being able to construct a sentence in which the noun and verb agree is a necessary first step to critical thinking, so I wasn't able to get through the rest of Aimee's classmate's post.

Raq is me. I couldn't get past the first sentence.

But, interesting discussion. Somewhat related, I was having a discussion about critical thinking with my dad on my birthday. He said that he and mom always tried to teach us critical thinking, and they respect where we've ended up, because of that. And, I gotta say, watching my parents critically re-think issues and leave the fundamental Baptist environment because of it makes me prouder than anything else as a daughter. I've watched my parents live what they believe, but not get so wrapped up that they couldn't learn and grow as humans.

Sounds like Aimee's professor and classmate could learn something from them.

ION, guess what's on my schedule for the day??? MORE peppermint bark! W00T! Two more batches, and I'm done. I think. I hope. Till after Christmas, anyways.