Book: Yes, I'd forgotten you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now. Got your next heist planned? Simon: No. But I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 33: Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cass - Nov 22, 2006 4:29:38 pm PST #2967 of 10004
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But still has a restraining order in effect now? I hope...

Glad you were there with her, David. Really. Stalking and verging on psychotic exes are really frightening.

I feel so horrible for Aidan. I really feel terribly for EM and Emmett as well, but I feel like Aidan is just so stuck with such a messed up situation right now...

Again, glad that you were a good enough person to be there for EM, and Emmett by extension, today... It says a lot about a person to care about people where the original relationship has ended and changed.


Polter-Cow - Nov 22, 2006 4:32:54 pm PST #2968 of 10004
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Again, glad that you were a good enough person to be there for EM, and Emmett by extension, today... It says a lot about a person to care about people where the original relationship has ended and changed.

Word.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 22, 2006 4:35:23 pm PST #2969 of 10004
What is even happening?

Ditto. Poor, poor EM. I'm so glad you were there for her, Hec.


DavidS - Nov 22, 2006 4:39:00 pm PST #2970 of 10004
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But still has a restraining order in effect now? I hope...

No. There is no restraining order now. It has been vacated. EMEX has been warned from the bench to make no contact, but he is not obliged to stay 100 yards away etc.

If he does contact her, she would have to file for another restraining order - which the Judge would grant upon seeing evidence of the contact.

I am HOPING his attorney pulls him aside and says, "You dodged a huge fucking bullet, but if you fuck-up you will not only have a restraining order, but the judge will cite you with Stalking which is a criminal offense. Don't. Fuck. Up."


Cass - Nov 22, 2006 4:47:42 pm PST #2971 of 10004
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Crap! I was hoping that you meant there was a restraining order but it was only temporary.

I hope that his attorney does exactly that. And that EMEX pays heed and learns to accept the rejection and move the fuck on.

I had an ex go into Stalker Lite mode and it scared the hell out of me. Thinking about what she is going through is just so frightening. It's horrible enough knowing someone wishes you terror and ill, but from someone that you were once intimate (not necessarily sexual, just the closeness of actual intimacy) it is an even bigger betrayal.

She knows to document every single thing, yes?

Damn I just wish there were some way for her to have peace now...


DavidS - Nov 22, 2006 4:54:42 pm PST #2972 of 10004
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's horrible enough knowing someone wishes you terror and ill, but from someone that you were once intimate (not necessarily sexual, just the closeness of actual intimacy) it is an even bigger betrayal.

You know, at lunch she said, "I just don't even know what's going through his head."

And I referred to my Jossverse wisdom. "Well, Joss Whedon - who created Buffy - said one of the biggest influences on his writing was seeing an interview with Willem Dafoe. The interviewer asked, "Is it more fun to play a villain or a hero?" and Dafoe answered, "It doesn't matter. Everybody is justified. Everybody is a hero in the movie in their own head. That's how I play every character."

I also acquainted her with the notion of Negative Intimacy, which is a big part of the classic divorce guidebook Mom's House, Dad's House. In essence, after a breakup all the intimacy you had with somebody passes through the mirror and instead of being a positive source of emotional sharing and strength, is exploited as a weakness.


Cashmere - Nov 22, 2006 5:00:13 pm PST #2973 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

I admire the judge for taking consideration for EM's relationship with Aidan. Sounds like he told EMEX to fucking grow up and be an adult with regards to EM for the sake of his child.

That said, I'm glad EM's considering a security system and self-defense. It sucks to be victimized (and to top it off with ass surgery).

I'm completely fucking whipped. DH felt worse instead of better today with his sinus infection (or it could have been the medication knocking him out). But he crawled back into bed this afternoon and pretty much stayed there most of the night. He was awake when I put the kids down for their nap and trekked to the grocery store but ducked back in bed while I fed the kids and got them ready for bed.

I've just been juggling the kids all day and night AND trying to clean for houseguests and shop and plan for the meal on Friday.

And my back's flared up again.


Cass - Nov 22, 2006 5:02:01 pm PST #2974 of 10004
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

"It doesn't matter. Everybody is justified. Everybody is a hero in the movie in their own head. That's how I play every character."
Which explains part of why he is scary as fuck. And why people we used to love and trust can be scary as well.
I also acquainted her with the notion of Negative Intimacy, which is a big part of the classic divorce guidebook Mom's House, Dad's House. In essence, after a breakup all the intimacy you had with somebody passes through the mirror and instead of being a positive source of emotional sharing and strength, is exploited as a weakness.
I hadn't heard of this. [Insert gratitude that I am a child of a truly amicable divorce and send flowers to all my parents while I am at it.] It makes a lot of sense though. In that I understand, not that it makes a damn bit of actual sense.

I wish her all of the strength and support in the world. And I hope that EMex comes to his senses and just fades away.


vw bug - Nov 22, 2006 5:05:55 pm PST #2975 of 10004
Mostly lurking...

Oh, god. I'm so sorry, David, and to EM too. The alarm system is a wonderful idea. Much peace and strength and wisdom~ma to you all.


juliana - Nov 22, 2006 5:14:19 pm PST #2976 of 10004
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

In essence, after a breakup all the intimacy you had with somebody passes through the mirror and instead of being a positive source of emotional sharing and strength, is exploited as a weakness.

Whoo, I can testify to that. Gods, David, I'm so sorry that it's not over for EM, but I hope the judge's instincts were correct.