Well then what the hell is it?!?

Child nudity? I think it's the sexual act that makes it porn.

Yeah, sorry about my ?!?, I have this issue with "children getting naked for the sexual gratification of others." Call me nutzo.... t /sarcasm

Anyway... I think the reason all these lawsuits end up not being valid is the theory that you shouldn't get drunk enough that, not only will you do something you wouldn't normally do, but that you'd sign a waiver about it. For instance, if those guys didn't want the image of them being racist twits spreading around, they shouldn't act like that.

signed, feeling like a hardass today

Well then what the hell is it?!?

Isn't that amazing? Snap shots of toddlers in bathtubs get parents hauled off by the cops but THAT is somehow not sexual. At least in Florida.

Maybe its just in the context of the "no expectation of privacy"? I have no clue. If underaged boobs had trademarks I might be able to tell you.

I have this issue with "children getting naked for the sexual gratification of others."

I agree with you, however, I wonder if it has to do with the age of sexual consent in any particular state. In Florida, it's 16, if the person they are having teh sex with is under the age of 24. But like I say, I don't know if that has any bearing on the definition of "children" in cases like these.

Would context have to do with it as well? A group of coeds partying on a beach topless who then agree to be filmed is a different case than someone coercing a teenager to take their clothes off.

I Google'd the age of sexual consent for the states. Louisiana don't fuck around when it comes to sex with a child.

LOUISIANA 17

Louisiana law allows prosecutors to seek the death penalty for people convicted of having consensual sex with a person under 12 years old. The Louisiana state Supreme Court declared the law constitutional in 1999 because of a 1977 U.S. Supreme Court ruling addressing the rape of an adult, not a child. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1977 banned the death penalty for raping adult women, but the justices did not say whether it could be applied to child rapists. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the 1999 Louisiana case, allowing the death penalty law to stand.

And a few states make the age higher for homosexual sex.. [link]

I know the Girls Gone Wild guy has done some unbelieveably shady things with consent. You remember that article about him, where he assaulted the writer? That article goes on to chronicle a case of very dubious consent from a drunken college woman -- to intercourse.

And because the woman wakes up in the morning feeling dirty and guilty, it doesn't occur to her that, nor will she come forward and testify that, what she experienced is formally classified as rape.

Probably the legal loophole is "I couldn't tell they were drunk when they signed," and I'm sure they don't turn the cameras on during the signature, so as not to create incriminating evidence to the contrary. But -- yeah. I know a certain percentage of people would sign anyway, sober or not, because they like the idea of being on television; but I bet that doesn't describe everyone.

I'm sure that context has something to do with it.

I think my judgement may be colored by my extreme hatred for the guy that does GGW. After I read the (I think) LA Times article about him.... well, let's just say he doesn't want to meet me after dark. Of course, I'm not a sexy co-ed, so he wouldn't give me the time of day anyway.

All the better to sneak up on him....

eta: slimy GWW x-post!

I was going to mention that article, but I couldn't remember where I'd read it. And yes, the rape allegations are exactly why I am deeply, deeply skeptical about the level of "consent" in any of those videos, lawsuits or not.

We should totes do the pop culture thing!

Seriously.

We should have Buffista teams trying out all across the country!!!!!