But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Spike's Bitches 32: I think I'm sobering up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Amy - Oct 06, 2006 7:06:37 am PDT #6284 of 10000
Because books.

So, who's up for a big Friday afternoon discussion?

What about?


Aims - Oct 06, 2006 7:06:54 am PDT #6285 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Give me three more hours and I might be. I need food and caffiene and my boss hasn't left for the breakfast place yet. (He eats there every day. Watch today be the one day he doesn't go. The day I forget my breakfast. And not on purpose.)


vw bug - Oct 06, 2006 7:07:34 am PDT #6286 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

What about?

The tapes that play in our heads.


Trudy Booth - Oct 06, 2006 7:08:00 am PDT #6287 of 10000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What about?

Just how freakin' cute Nice Boy is?

*crickets* *crickets* *crickets*


Frankenbuddha - Oct 06, 2006 7:09:20 am PDT #6288 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The tapes that play in our heads.

OK, I think you may need to upgrade to disc, first of all...


Amy - Oct 06, 2006 7:10:34 am PDT #6289 of 10000
Because books.

Just how freakin' cute Nice Boy is?

Good idea!

The tapes that play in our heads.

Oh, I have one of those. More than one, actually.


vw bug - Oct 06, 2006 7:15:09 am PDT #6290 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

Ok. Discussion time!

AmyLiz’s “bad mommy points” post reminded me of a discussion I had with my cousin on Sunday.

First, a little background. My cousin is four years older than me (34), married, and has three boys (4th grade, 1st grade, and 2-years-old)). Their youngest, A, was born with a club foot. They coddled him a bit (her words, not mine), because he had a rough time…had to wear these fancy shoes, connected with a bar, and still sleeps with these fancy shoes. He crawled late, walked late, etc. He’s pretty much caught up now, and is doing really fabulous. Cute and funny. Love him to pieces.

But, we were talking about things on Sunday, and she said that they really coddled him, and that they could have been better parents. Looking back, she should have been “stronger” and worked harder with him so he didn’t get so behind and so coddled.

I told her that I really think they did the best they could with him. She did what was effective at the time, and he’s thriving now, so she couldn’t have done that badly.

But still, she had expectations, and the impression that others have expectations (she was told things by doctors, friends, etc. that said she should be doing things differently), so she beats herself up about the way they raised A in his early days.

So, parents. What “should” tapes play in your head about your kids (or other things)? How do fight them?

Singles: what “should” tapes play in your head about anything? How do you fight them?

How much do both groups think that these expectations come from themselves? And how much comes from society?


Connie Neil - Oct 06, 2006 7:20:10 am PDT #6291 of 10000
brillig

Just how freakin' cute Nice Boy is?

But is he good in bed? Does he keep our Trudy satisfied?


Amy - Oct 06, 2006 7:27:34 am PDT #6292 of 10000
Because books.

So, parents. What “should” tapes play in your head about your kids (or other things)? How do fight them?

Ye gods. How much time do you have?

I "should" play with the kids more. I should NOT let them watch so much TV. I should make sure they're eating more vegetables. I should have Sara potty-trained by now. I should ... Well, most of them involve me being supermom, and subjugating most of the things I want to do to after they're in bed.

It's a "what's best for them" tape, essentially. And it's not me at all. I mean, I've always played with them, but I do let all of them watch too much TV because I can't be "on" for a toddler all day long. I'm not the kind of mother I pictured I would be (which was essentially an uber-earthy, ultrapatient, happy-as-a-clam every minute mother who made homemade playdoh and never let the kids near a TV and had an art project to do with them every day).

I don't know if that's a realistic image for anyone. Some people, maybe. Not me. So I fight that tape by looking at my kids, who are, for the most part, happy, bright, healthy, imaginative, and (usually) well-behaved. I'm NOT fucking them up. I do my best, and part of that is making sure I'm reasonably happy, too, because an unhappy mom is NOT a good thing.

I'm making it sound easier than it is, and anyone who reads my LJ knows that I have issues around this with Jake, who is fifteen. But event here, I'm doing my best to keep his nature in focus.

Where do the "shoulds" come from? Partly from society, but partly from our own natures. I had those ideas about what being a mom would be like when I was, like, twelve, not an adult (although they carried over -- they were just "born" then).


lisah - Oct 06, 2006 7:31:28 am PDT #6293 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

The tapes that play in our heads.

haha (laughing in a bitter, not really funny way) I was going to suggest discussing how much I SUCK! and will never get ahead or get what I want in life because I can't be a grown up about taking care of my finances and I run into the same problems over and over again and I never learn from my mistakes because I'm lazy and kinda dumb and wah wah wah...oh and how I'll be so completely fucked if I have like a medical emergency or I lose my job or something. so there's that...

I think I want to talk about Trudy's boy...