Men do tend to put on a front in front of women - company manners, so to speak. Many of them would feel obliged to put that front on if one of their number were to be vagina-having. Having to keep up company manners on what is supposed to be a time of relaxing amongst the guys kinda defeats the purpose. I think it ranks up there with gaggles of girls going to the restroom together - which I grok considerably less than the boys' night out. What is there to disagree about, unless he bailed on plans that you had made to do something special together in order to breathe in teh XY air?
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WindSparrow - Aug 30, 2006 7:46:32 pm PDT #1016 of 10000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Daisy Jane - Aug 30, 2006 7:49:48 pm PDT #1017 of 10000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Crap, that was way more Meeee than I intended...
No, I'm always interested in how other people handle relationships. My mother only really got a good marriage once I was out of the house (I wonder how much of that was not having to fight with someone over what their job in child rearing was. By the time they were married, we were all reared). I'm not overly fond of most of my friends marriages (I mean for me. If they're happy, I'm cool.) Before we got married I told him I wouldn't be "The Wife" whatever that is, and it's a struggle because crap like boys night out sucks you right back in.
I'd happily see traditional marriage smashed to bits- Go team HoYay!
Aims - Aug 30, 2006 7:55:33 pm PDT #1018 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Joe would have his boys night out when he gamed. But now, because of Em, and because I work Saturdays, they game here. I very rarely take a girl's night. But then, I never really did.
This post has no bearing on anything.
Daisy Jane - Aug 30, 2006 8:00:39 pm PDT #1019 of 10000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I would've liked to go down to the club with our friends too (ETA- see Aimee, thanks cause that would be the difference, if it were say, night golfing- please leave me out of it), or at least not be alone for the fourth night in a row. Wednesdays are the first day after many of not seeing each other at all that we get to have any time together. And I'm not really the type to need fifty of my friends to pee, but thanks.
I also don't understand better manners in front of girls. Are they only acting like decent humans in front of us, and then behind our backs they're assholes. I don't think that's true. And I can't think of much my friends couldn't say in front of me that they'd say any other time. Unless they really are a bunch of racist, misogynist bigots who hate me and I've just never noticed because it's only done away from girls while we go chat in between hair fluffs in the bathroom.
Sorry but this:
What is there to disagree about, unless he bailed on plans that you had made to do something special together in order to breathe in teh XY air?
Not cool to say to someone you don't know very well.
Aims - Aug 30, 2006 8:03:52 pm PDT #1020 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Sweetie, I think she was just asking you a question, not trying to be rude.
Daisy Jane - Aug 30, 2006 8:07:32 pm PDT #1021 of 10000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Sorry I took offense then. It just read like a question of being over needy- being called overly needy can make you sensitive to that.
I do apologize.
Cass - Aug 30, 2006 8:09:09 pm PDT #1022 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
No, I'm always interested in how other people handle relationships.Oh good. I read what I wrote and then wasn't sure if it was intrudey or explainy.
I think the thing with "Boys Night Out" or just a night out alone is that it can mean so many different things within even one relationship. Some good, some okay, some bad and some where a nice round of honesty is called for. So fucking complicated.
Might want to hang out with people you don't gel with, might want to talk "boy" in a purely not creepy kind of way, might want to pretend to be single for a night, might want to go out with people he just doesn't care about in the same way, might be bunnies.
Aims - Aug 30, 2006 8:09:37 pm PDT #1023 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
You're angry and hurt. Easy to take things the wrong way.
beth b - Aug 30, 2006 8:10:01 pm PDT #1024 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
or at least not be alone for the fourth night in a row
sounds to me like that was the real problem.
Here's what I am guessing - if boy's night is a tradition - as in done before - you aren't going to change it. The when and how of it - are changable. In my house - that means I have to become superrational about explaining how I feel , why I feel, with the constant reminder to both DH and myself - what do I/we want to get out of this.
Scrappy - Aug 30, 2006 8:10:49 pm PDT #1025 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I don't think it's a mtter of being not a decent person, I think it's more a style of relating. The DH can go play poker with friends for an evening and the guys can never EVER say one thing I would consider personal, yet have a great time. One guy he plays with we also spend a lot of time with as couples and with both the women in their lives are there, we all talk more about work, feelings, their kids, etc. I think my DH likes having both types of relating in his life and I can see why he wants that guy vibe sometimes. I like being around only female energy once in a while myself. It's not better, just different.