Cash, much ~ma to your sister. I hope we get to the "It's a funny story..." part soon.

Sadly, the cat thinks this was a giant conspiracy to make his paws wet.

Self-centered little mewling twerps.

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YAY BETH! I'm glad the plumber got there.

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Blech. Had an awful fight, and I'm all blotchy and need smokes.

There's this thing called guys night out, which I suppose is fine, but I don't quite get it. Now it's true that I hang with just my girlfriends sometimes, but if a boy wanted to tag along, I'd be okay with it. I might wonder why depending on the boy, but overall it would be cool. I guess I don't understand excluding people from festivities based on their bits.

Still like I said, not a huge deal- what became a huge deal was saying, "Why do you have to exclude people on a penis/no penis basis?" Things just went downhill from there. I was told it shouldn't hurt my feelings to not be included on the basis of my vagina, and I brought up his worst. fuckup. evah.

And even now, while I've calmed down enough that the whole thing is almost theoretical? Still sticks in my craw.

I've been thinking about the need to be away from your significant other, whether because you've been around each other too much lately or because you need to establish yourself as a whole other person again, and I suppose that could be justification for a "boys night out." But even then, wouldn't it just be easier to say, "I need to get away from youandme for a while, you could probably use the break too why don't you go grab that comic book/yarn/bath crap you've been eyeing and have yourself a night while I go out." Of course that would mean that you've been holding up your end of the relationship bargain, and not neglecting her feelings.

Ahem...

Anyway, it seems more adult and less boys will be boys than

BOYS RULE
NO GIRLZ ALOWED!!!

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I was told it shouldn't hurt my feelings to not be included

Self-centered little mewling twerps.

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{{{loves on Cass in an entirely not just friends way}}}

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I won't say Yay untill the carpet is dry -- but I'm not upset , just think the wet carpet is gross.

DH and i had a talk about the concept of boys night - or girls night- afew nights ago. we've done it , but only at the instigation of someone else.DH thinks the concept is odd and well, immature. It is a tradition, so I'm not sure you can really fight it. But if he really wanted tiem from you - he should say so. but how to convince him of a better stratgy ...

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I've been thinking about the need to be away from your significant other, whether because you've been around each other too much lately or because you need to establish yourself as a whole other person again, and I suppose that could be justification for a "boys night out."

This is what it usually translates to, from my limited and severely messed up experience...

But even then, wouldn't it just be easier to say, "I need to get away from youandme for a while, you could probably use the break too why don't you go grab that comic book/yarn/bath crap you've been eyeing and have yourself a night while I go out."

It would be easier. It took DxH and I years, too many fights until we had finally had a conversation that explained what we both really needed and felt. Kinda wished we could have gotten there easier. And sooner. So much depends on communication and good communication at that. But it is so hard sometimes.

Crap, that was way more Meeee than I intended...

I am so sorry that you had a fight and are feeling all stressed out from it.

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It was a very shitty thing to say. I mean isn't that one of the first things they teach you about how to be a modern man in a progressive (relatively) society "You don't get to tell them how to feel anymore. Suck it up and deal."

And I mean, I didn't leave the rings on the counter and pack my bags or anything-but I don't understand the stupid.

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t makes out with Aimee

Just out of MM's sight, cause I am all about the evil.

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Men do tend to put on a front in front of women - company manners, so to speak. Many of them would feel obliged to put that front on if one of their number were to be vagina-having. Having to keep up company manners on what is supposed to be a time of relaxing amongst the guys kinda defeats the purpose. I think it ranks up there with gaggles of girls going to the restroom together - which I grok considerably less than the boys' night out. What is there to disagree about, unless he bailed on plans that you had made to do something special together in order to breathe in teh XY air?

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