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-t - Apr 14, 2014 10:12:30 am PDT #5636 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Not unless every single male they are related to is dead, IIRC. This is not true for every House or subkingdom, particularly not Dorne.


Amy - Apr 14, 2014 10:19:36 am PDT #5637 of 7329
Because books.

Right, that's what I thought. Thanks, -t!


DebetEsse - Apr 14, 2014 1:39:40 pm PDT #5638 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Jaime: You will never EVER marry my sister.
Loras: And neither will you.

Awww yeah.

This.

There was literally not a nanosecond wasted where he was not being the maximum amount of a dick that it is possible to be.

Also, this

Cersei is about to go off the deep end in a major way and it is going to be glorious.

Further, THIS

In a logical world (aka one not run by Lannisters) it would be pretty clear that he didn't poison that cup of wine
and
Tyrion gains nothing with Joffrey dead.

I'm pretty sure Captain Logic is not helming the Red Keep at this particular moment. It's entirely possible that he's taken the lifeboat and started rowing for Anywhere Else.

I think Margery technically is the Queen, since she and Joffrey were married (for a few minutes) before he died.

Nope. She (like Cersei, only moreso, since she's not anyone's mother) has basically no status at this point.

Tommen

Has been recast. With one of the actors who played a Lannister cousin who Karstark killed last season (thus leading Robb to take his head)

Speaking of long-offscreen Lannister babies, any bets on whether we see Myrcella ever again?

I've been debating whether I think we'll go to Dorne. I mean, we've talked about it a lot, but I don't know that I see them adding another location (with new characters) at this point, unless there's really no choice. Is there no choice, George? Do they need to go to Dorne for Plot?

Not unless every single male they are related to is dead, IIRC.

I think sisters inherit before uncles, even in the main of Westeros (so, it would go to Myrcella before Stannis, execept for the whole "not actually Baratheons" thing).

This is not true for every House or subkingdom, particularly not Dorne.

You mean the place where she just happens to be right now?


-t - Apr 14, 2014 2:08:39 pm PDT #5639 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Coincidence?

Women can inherit before their brothers in some Houses, and before their uncles generally, but not the Iron Throne (unless that only applies to Targaryens, which could be since it was put into effect after the original Dance of Dragons).

That's book rather than TV canon, of course, so could be out the window, I suppose.


DebetEsse - Apr 14, 2014 2:09:54 pm PDT #5640 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Women can inherit before their brothers in some Houses,

Apart from Dorne? I can't think of anywhere else. I mean, there's the Ironborn, but that's a whole other thing, and not purely lineage-based.


-t - Apr 14, 2014 2:25:58 pm PDT #5641 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, not so much that they do (as in Dorne) as that there's no overarching male primogeniture law to prevent it, if a sitting Lord (or Lady) were to name a daughter heir over a son. Not something likely to happen at Winterfell or Casterly Rock, but amongst the bannermen, maybe.


Jessica - Apr 14, 2014 4:47:57 pm PDT #5642 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

She (like Cersei, only moreso, since she's not anyone's mother) has basically no status at this point.

Not in terms of power, no, but she does have the title.

Do they need to go to Dorne for Plot?

I don't think so. Given how much else has been changed, they can probably get away with just talking about it enough to introduce the relevant characters.


Amy - Apr 14, 2014 4:55:56 pm PDT #5643 of 7329
Because books.

Someone on io9 mentioned Olenna's talk with Sansa, and how it ended with that comment about who would kill a man at a wedding, only a monster. And then the cup Tyrion grabbed was on the table in front of Olenna. I like this idea, although I still don't want Tyrion to pay for it.


DebetEsse - Apr 14, 2014 5:18:45 pm PDT #5644 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't think so. Given how much else has been changed, they can probably get away with just talking about it enough to introduce the relevant characters.

This is my thought.

Amy, that is very interesting, and I am going to completely absent myself from the "Who Killed Joffrey?" conversation because I cannot keep up the pretense of not knowing the answer.

The "precisely how fucked is Tyrion?" conversation, on the other hand, I shall partake of. with enthusiasm.

So, I was thinking about The Longest 9 Seconds (I heard. I didn't time it) of Awkward Silence Ever, and I think that that is the best of all possible responses to that sort of Mean Girls shit. Long steady stare, then politely walking away.

Totally book-based comment: So, while the change in Shae's character complicates her death to the point that I'm really not sure how or if it will go down, it will make Jaime's revelation about Tysha super extra resonant and painful for Tyrion.


Amy - Apr 14, 2014 6:14:03 pm PDT #5645 of 7329
Because books.

That's cool, Debet!

Long steady stare, then politely walking away.

Wait, what moment are you referring to here? (There were a lot Most Awkward Silences Ever, I thought.)