Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?

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Sean K - Apr 21, 2013 9:50:21 pm PDT #4988 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Hi, my name is Margaery, and the instrument I'll be playing today is Joffrey Baratheon.


Sean K - Apr 21, 2013 10:39:07 pm PDT #4989 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, as much as I loved this episode, HBO is seriously torturing me with this whole splitting the trial of the Hound over two episodes. Bad mean taunty HBO.


DebetEsse - Apr 22, 2013 4:23:12 am PDT #4990 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

See, I think Bran may do more running than any of the other actors.

Yeah, I thought about commenting on you FB post, "You keep saying that..."


Jessica - Apr 22, 2013 4:29:54 am PDT #4991 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hi, my name is Margaery, and the instrument I'll be playing today is Joffrey Baratheon.

My god, the look on Cercei's face when the crowd started cheering for them. And her whole conversation with Tywin. "Very well. Contribute."

This was the last ep I'd seen in advance, so I have no special information about what's going to happen next week! This is so frustrating/exciting! (I think I know one thing based on the promo, and I can't wait.)


Amy - Apr 22, 2013 4:35:01 am PDT #4992 of 7329
Because books.

The fact that Tywin doesn't treat Cersei any differently than Tyrion was very satisfying. I also love that he knows Joffrey is a monster.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2013 5:22:07 am PDT #4993 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I could be a little bit in love with her

Don't be coy. There's more than a little there.

I noticed when Bran jerked up awake this time he did so using his arms.

I wish I'd come away with more of a sense of what was going through Cersei's head when the crowd was yelling for Margaery. I know she thought going out there was a bad idea, but I'm not sure how outwitted she feels by their entire family.

I'm not getting the same sense of her and Tyrion's awesome this season. Which isn't a critique, but I see where and why things shifted for Tyrion. Less clear for her.

I'm curious to see what comes of the assertion of leashing Joffrey. I...I do wish he were written a bit subtler. He takes me out of the story.


le nubian - Apr 22, 2013 6:40:42 am PDT #4994 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

see where and why things shifted for Tyrion. Less clear for her.

Her lack of control over Joffrey is how I read it. Things were great until Joffrey held the throne. He is quite savage and does not seem to read nonverbals well.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2013 6:49:10 am PDT #4995 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Things were great until Joffrey held the throne. He is quite savage and does not seem to read nonverbals well.

See, I can't respect that. I know that the shine is meant to come off her, but I don't think we got any indication that Joffrey changed so much as he blossomed. He didn't wake up a psychopath and an asshole the morning after his father died.

And when I say "respect" I don't mean I need to like her--just that it diminishes my appreciation of her faculties. Tyrion's shift worked much better for me.


Jessica - Apr 22, 2013 6:56:25 am PDT #4996 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He didn't wake up a psychopath and an asshole the morning after his father died.

No, but he did wake up king. She totally underestimated how much of her previous power over him rested in her being Queen vs her being Mom.


DebetEsse - Apr 22, 2013 7:00:57 am PDT #4997 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Her lack of control over Joffrey is how I read it

Yeah, I think when Ned Stark lost his head was her "oh, fuck" moment. I think she thought she could control him more, like Jessica said.