I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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DebetEsse - Apr 22, 2013 4:23:12 am PDT #4990 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

See, I think Bran may do more running than any of the other actors.

Yeah, I thought about commenting on you FB post, "You keep saying that..."


Jessica - Apr 22, 2013 4:29:54 am PDT #4991 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hi, my name is Margaery, and the instrument I'll be playing today is Joffrey Baratheon.

My god, the look on Cercei's face when the crowd started cheering for them. And her whole conversation with Tywin. "Very well. Contribute."

This was the last ep I'd seen in advance, so I have no special information about what's going to happen next week! This is so frustrating/exciting! (I think I know one thing based on the promo, and I can't wait.)


Amy - Apr 22, 2013 4:35:01 am PDT #4992 of 7329
Because books.

The fact that Tywin doesn't treat Cersei any differently than Tyrion was very satisfying. I also love that he knows Joffrey is a monster.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2013 5:22:07 am PDT #4993 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I could be a little bit in love with her

Don't be coy. There's more than a little there.

I noticed when Bran jerked up awake this time he did so using his arms.

I wish I'd come away with more of a sense of what was going through Cersei's head when the crowd was yelling for Margaery. I know she thought going out there was a bad idea, but I'm not sure how outwitted she feels by their entire family.

I'm not getting the same sense of her and Tyrion's awesome this season. Which isn't a critique, but I see where and why things shifted for Tyrion. Less clear for her.

I'm curious to see what comes of the assertion of leashing Joffrey. I...I do wish he were written a bit subtler. He takes me out of the story.


le nubian - Apr 22, 2013 6:40:42 am PDT #4994 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

see where and why things shifted for Tyrion. Less clear for her.

Her lack of control over Joffrey is how I read it. Things were great until Joffrey held the throne. He is quite savage and does not seem to read nonverbals well.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2013 6:49:10 am PDT #4995 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Things were great until Joffrey held the throne. He is quite savage and does not seem to read nonverbals well.

See, I can't respect that. I know that the shine is meant to come off her, but I don't think we got any indication that Joffrey changed so much as he blossomed. He didn't wake up a psychopath and an asshole the morning after his father died.

And when I say "respect" I don't mean I need to like her--just that it diminishes my appreciation of her faculties. Tyrion's shift worked much better for me.


Jessica - Apr 22, 2013 6:56:25 am PDT #4996 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He didn't wake up a psychopath and an asshole the morning after his father died.

No, but he did wake up king. She totally underestimated how much of her previous power over him rested in her being Queen vs her being Mom.


DebetEsse - Apr 22, 2013 7:00:57 am PDT #4997 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Her lack of control over Joffrey is how I read it

Yeah, I think when Ned Stark lost his head was her "oh, fuck" moment. I think she thought she could control him more, like Jessica said.


Sean K - Apr 22, 2013 7:18:45 am PDT #4998 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, I thought about commenting on you FB post, "You keep saying that..."

I went back and checked the preview from last week, because I swore I saw a clip from the actual fight amongst the speedy-clips-at-the-end that they always do. But it was actually Ramsey (the guy who helped Theon "escape") holding a torch.

Now that we know that kid is actually Ramsey Snow, I wonder if they're actually at the Dreadfort, and all those people know who he is (the dying guy's "You little bastard" last week would seem to say yes), or if they're somewhere else and Ramsey's in his Reek disguise (which he kind of seems to be). Although, explaining all that may wind up being more confusing than not explaining it.


le nubian - Apr 22, 2013 7:20:17 am PDT #4999 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm not sure why she thought that though. Does seem to validate her father's appraisal of her not being as with it as she thinks. Joffrey was fucking out of hand before he became king. At least we saw that. Things were not going to improve. And if it is as she said that half the family are a bunch of bloodthirsty assholes and half aren't, why did she think she'd avoid the curse with Joffrey.