Kingsguard when he was just 17 -- and like Jon and the Night's Watch, that's a vow for life (and celibacy)
It is worth pointing out that he hasn't exactly followed through on the celibacy bit. Or do the Kingsguard just swear not to marry or inherit?
Bye, now. Have good sex.
Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'
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Jessica - Apr 07, 2012 5:45:29 am PDT #4305 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Theodosia - Apr 07, 2012 6:22:50 am PDT #4306 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
No, there's definitely celibacy also in the mix, though it seems to be as well-observed as many real-world vows of celibacy are. :-)
When Sir Barristan Selmy gets 'fired' last season that's unprecedented, and is probably under Tywin Lannister's orders to Cersei (and hence to Joffrey) so that Jaime can unwillingly be promoted to head of the Kingsguard.
§ ita § - Apr 07, 2012 6:48:36 pm PDT #4307 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm finding Joffrey distractingly prickish. Like, he's taking me out of the story, because I see him, and scenarios of him getting a violent and humiliating beatdown dance across my vision. He's *too* annoying for the story. Out of scale.
Again in comparison to the books--well, first I should ask--does anyone else find him that annoying? Or do you find him enjoyably irritating? I don't like the sensation. It's pretty unpleasant to experience, and takes me out of the fiction.
Theodosia - Apr 08, 2012 2:24:43 am PDT #4308 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I suppose there are so many characters in the books that I want to see come to a horrible bloody end that he doesn't stand out particularly.* (But then Cersei seems to be significantly humanized for the adaptation.)
* And so many of them do, thank you George. My prediction is at the end of the 7 (8, 9... whatever) books, Westeros will be a burned over wasteland with only Tyrion, Arya, and Dolorous Edd alive.
(Though, I wouldn't put it past Martin to pull a Hamlet and kill off ALL the viewpoint characters except Horatio.)
le nubian - Apr 08, 2012 4:39:14 am PDT #4309 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I know this is fiction and all, but could a world like this have really existed hundreds of years ago with this many odious people?
It seems likely to me.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2012 5:51:49 am PDT #4310 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I suppose there are so many characters in the books that I want to see come to a horrible bloody end
By the point the series has reached, or later on? Because, right now, I don't hate anyone near as much as I hate him. He's spit on-stamp on his face-get dogs to shit on him-and then vultures to pick through the faeces for their dinner sort of irritating to me.
-t - Apr 08, 2012 6:42:37 am PDT #4311 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I find him horrible, but appropriately horrible for a villain, I guess.
The actor who plays Joffrey looks a lot like my nephew did at that age from certain angles, so I find that distracting and pretty creepy.
tiggy - Apr 08, 2012 6:48:49 am PDT #4312 of 7329
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
speaking of Joffrey, i came across this on tumblr a few days ago. [link]
le nubian - Apr 08, 2012 7:16:44 am PDT #4313 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
that cracked my shit up.
Theodosia - Apr 08, 2012 7:28:50 am PDT #4314 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Just wait, ita, just wait. If they're faithfully adapting from the books, you'll look back at young Joffrey as early and carefree days.
Mind you, I'd say that you'd be wise to avoid spoilers, because the HSQ I've experienced with the books is worth the extra effort. Really totally slamming the book down, walking around the room saying out loud "Holy SHIT!" and then having to call your best friend to say it yet again.