And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Jon B. - Apr 06, 2012 5:52:44 pm PDT #4295 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

As someone who has not read the books, I was very confused by the end of the episode. Joffrey commanded that all babies(?) all bastard babies(?) all boys(?) be killed because any of them could be his half brother? Who was the kid at the end with the bull helmet? Had we seen him before?


sumi - Apr 06, 2012 5:54:52 pm PDT #4296 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, he was somebody that Jon Arryn had investigated and Ned followed up on - one of Robert's bastards.

ETA: He was first in episode 4 of season 1.


Kalshane - Apr 06, 2012 6:01:07 pm PDT #4297 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

The blacksmith's apprentice.


tiggy - Apr 06, 2012 6:08:21 pm PDT #4298 of 7329
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

also one of the best characters from the UK show, Skins.


Jon B. - Apr 06, 2012 6:39:52 pm PDT #4299 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

OK, I do remember the blacksmith's apprentice. What about the first half of my questions?


-t - Apr 06, 2012 6:42:41 pm PDT #4300 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think Cersei is killing all Robert's bastards because Joffrey reminded her they exist and are a threat. Robert was not discreet, so they can be pretty precise.


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 6:42:48 pm PDT #4301 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He ordered that all of his "father"'s bastards be killed, so no one else would realise how much he totally didn't look like them--so no one had the epiphany Ned did.


Rayne - Apr 06, 2012 10:46:59 pm PDT #4302 of 7329
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

In the book, I always thought it was Cersei who ordered the killing.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2012 3:13:19 am PDT #4303 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I can't remember!


Jon B. - Apr 07, 2012 4:35:38 am PDT #4304 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't mind if the show explains it later. I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something!