I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


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beekaytee - Jul 12, 2011 7:59:41 am PDT #3900 of 7329
Compassionately intolerant

Abomination.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 12, 2011 8:23:39 am PDT #3901 of 7329
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The famine in 4 months thing doesn't make any sense - the worldwide death rate is something like 8.4 per thousand annually, so stopping that wouldn't result in a huge immediate boom, it would take years and years to make a significant change to population vs. food production capability. And the people who miraculously don't die probably aren't in any shape to be giving birth to kids in the near future, so the birth rate isn't going to accelerate.

Now, things would get worse and worse as hospitals fill up with not-dead invalids and as a result health care resources for the non-terminal population erode, but the situation isn't going to snowball as quickly as a Tribble population explosion.


Fred Pete - Jul 12, 2011 9:00:55 am PDT #3902 of 7329
Ann, that's a ferret.

so the birth rate isn't going to accelerate

Any already-existing pregnancies will (I assume) be carried to birth, so the birth rate certainly isn't likely to decelerate for at least 9 months or so. There may be some acceleration in the birth rate if the miracle affects those not yet born -- no miscarriages, no stillbirths, no abortion. Deceleration might begin in a year or so, but people aren't necessarily going to be sensible enough to take steps to avoid pregancny. (Why does the Population Explosion never end? Because it's so much fun to set the fuse....)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 12, 2011 10:37:45 am PDT #3903 of 7329
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, that brings up the horrible thought that miscarriages wouldn't stop happening, they just wouldn't be fatal to the fetuses anymore ...


le nubian - Jul 12, 2011 10:40:31 am PDT #3904 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yep. we will see how this is all handled.


Liese S. - Jul 12, 2011 7:37:08 pm PDT #3905 of 7329
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, I realize I am bringing the bleak tonight, and it's all probably pretty much hangover from missing Ianto. But I am really going to hate this premise the further it goes, aren't I? I mean, I'm a death is your gift believer anyway. I know that death is a welcome relief from pain sometimes. I also know that pain is an important part of life sometimes. I think it could maybe be a fascinating topic, but if you start off by snipping the tendons off the mangled burnt remains of a person and then laugh at causing more of that infinite, irreconcilable pain, well, I might not think you're exploring that in a way I want to explore.

Also, I think that Jack being mortal, the first thing he'd want to do is commit suicide right away, so he didn't miss his chance. If he doesn't, I don't want to hear his bitching about his longevity ever again.

I mean, I think it could be an interesting story. Or, it could be that the entire universe just got reverse fridged to enhance Jack's unique manpain.


sumi - Jul 13, 2011 7:21:05 am PDT #3906 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Non-spoilery interview with the creator of the Dothraki language. (As part of a bigger podcast.)


Jon B. - Jul 13, 2011 8:44:40 am PDT #3907 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Also, I think that Jack being mortal, the first thing he'd want to do is commit suicide right away, so he didn't miss his chance. If he doesn't, I don't want to hear his bitching about his longevity ever again.

We don't know that he's mortal; just that he's not healing. Same as everyone else in the world. In which case, trying to commit suicide wouldn't work and would only bring him bucketloads of pain.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2011 8:55:19 am PDT #3908 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the first thing he'd want to do is commit suicide right away, so he didn't miss his chance

When's the last time he expressed a death wish? Being sad that you outlive everyone you love is not the same thing as wanting to end your existence. And he hasn't bitched about his longevity *that* much, has he? He seems to come back from the dead with quite the smirk, half the time.


Vortex - Jul 13, 2011 4:25:22 pm PDT #3909 of 7329
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Here's a good legal analysis of the issues in Torchwood - Law & the Multiverse