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Zenkitty - Dec 29, 2009 7:07:12 am PST #2581 of 7329
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think the shock ending of this season was a way to reset the series, to bring back the Dexter of Season 1.

With bonus kid(s). I dunno. I'll watch next season, I didn't hate this season as much as many people did (though I understand why they did), but I have deep doubts about them being able to make it work again. It's possible next season will be the last (speculation only).

Personally, I don't think there's any way the show can end except with Dexter committing suicide by cop.


Java cat - Dec 29, 2009 7:15:04 pm PST #2582 of 7329
Not javachik

I found an interview by Tim Goodman (SF Chron's excellent tv critic) with MCHall in TG's The Bastard Machine blog, taped Sept. 28, '08, so, just after the wedding. MCH says they never expected the show to go on forever (TG inserts joke about Law & Order), because, really, where can they go? Dexter either gets caught or gets rehabilitated.

I don't think there's any way the show can end except with Dexter committing suicide by cop.

Or this. That would work.

TG publishes his top 10 list of shows in the Chron, and puts his long list in the blog. Dexter is #22. He's giving it all kind of credit because people are watching it, which, gee Tim, aren't you above that? But he clearly likes the entire cast. The B story with Batista and LaGuerta *was* terrific. So was the story with Quinn, too. The hunting CIs story was handled well too.


Java cat - Dec 29, 2009 7:16:37 pm PST #2583 of 7329
Not javachik

I'm jealous

Of what?


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2009 5:20:22 am PST #2584 of 7329
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Dexter getting rehabilitated would be a good real-life end to his killing spree (insofar as this story coincides with RL at all) but it would be a bad end to the series. The story has taken care to make Dexter a character we can allow ourselves to like and cheer on. The whole point of this show is to make us root for the serial killer. If he ends up in prison, then he loses. That's a huge letdown; we want him to win. If he ends up ridding himself of his murderous urges and becoming a normal guy, it invalidates the whole premise, that Dexter is at heart a killer (as opposed to just somebody who decides to commit a lot of murders, but doesn't have that irresistible urge to do so). If he just goes on killing until he's 95, dying alone in a nursing home, whispering the truth to a priest with his last breath, well, that's really the preferable option, but storywise it's more whimper than bang.

Killing himself in graceful acceptance of defeat once he realizes the jig is up is another option, but why go out quietly? If he's caught and he has to choose between death and prison, we know he'll choose death. Why end his life by his own hand when he can make another hand do it? He's spent his life manipulating people, controlling events to his advantage, he should go out the same way: forcing the cops to shoot him.

Aw, hell. I feel a fanfic coming on.


erikaj - Dec 30, 2009 6:39:58 am PST #2585 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

I probably won't get to see Entourage Season Six for a while, Java. I thought I wrote that in my post, but I guess I just thought I wrote that in my post. I mean, I got spoiled a few times, but then I quit looking, cause, hey, it's Entourage, and doesn't really stand up to *all that* much scrutiny. Kind of like the pretty bubble you can't look at too closely before it pops. ION, Tim Goodman and I used to have an e-mail correspondence while "The Wire" was still on.I doubt he thinks about my end of it, though, unless he is stuck for a column and needs to pretend to be working feverishly over lunch. I remember he was surprised I mentioned that Jimmy McNulty is hot, but, duh, Jimmy McNulty is hot and doesn't wear that many clothes around his shithole apartment.No, that isn't *why* I watched it, although that is why it was hard to be as hard on Stringer Bell as my brain occasionally demanded. Wanting to sniff someone does dim your moral outrage at them. I don't think I wrote that to Goodman, but if I did, that's probably why the e-mails stopped.


Java cat - Dec 30, 2009 3:01:04 pm PST #2586 of 7329
Not javachik

probably won't get to see Entourage Season Six for a while

Aha. Maybe I can help. I'm watching it now, and it's quite enjoyable. I do like these boys. (I had one of those awful normal diagnostic tests that involves anesthesia this morning so I am forced! to stay home and hang out. Ditto yesterday.)

Are you watching Dexter, erika?

I will try to focus more on going over the season that aired but right now, I keep wanting to know where they are going. Have to whitefont: As a practical matter, what will happen to the kids? I'm guessing custody will automatically roll over to Dexter as the spouse. But, did R have a will? Do Fla. statutes provide for spousal custody in the case of intestate death of the sole natural parent? How will the parents who just took them to Disney World fit in? R made a point of saying that even though her ex was an ass, they were terrific grandparents. Are they going to send Cody and Astor off to live with the grandparents, but follow the "born in blood" theme with Dex (and perhaps Deb as sister) parenting the baby. What's his name? Anderson? Harrison? Maybe their out for the rehab option is that Dex is forced into therapy for Harrison and kind of goes through it himself, something like that. Deb knows about the bloody container, she'll draw the parallel also, there won't be any way for Dex to avoid therapy. end whitefont There was an excellent yuletide last year? year before? on the theme of the therapist/Dexter, in that Dex goes through with it, safely. It was terrific. In that, he rehabs, then Deb is shot and he's very alone.


erikaj - Dec 30, 2009 3:29:19 pm PST #2587 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

I've seen parts of Dexter season 2, I think, but I haven't watched for a while. It's...intense.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2009 3:48:58 pm PST #2588 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't need to whitefont, Java. Erika knows the score of the thread.


Juliebird - Dec 31, 2009 4:43:43 pm PST #2589 of 7329
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Man, I've been skimming back and forth through Carnivale, and after Jonesey's final scene in season 2, I almost couldn't bring myself to even skim the rest (I'm having a Tim DeKay fit). It took me until White Collar to realize that Clayton Jones was the only reason I hung on to the show, and my goodness he was such a wonderful woobie. I still call BS on the final fate of Jonesy, no matter how happy it makes me.


Mala - Jan 01, 2010 11:54:26 am PST #2590 of 7329

I still have a lot of lingering disappointment over Carnivale S2, but I love me some Jonesey. Nothing will ever be quite as hot as he and Rita Sue.