A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Honestly, I do think it was fairly stupid of people to start posting links on the SciFi.com boards -- if you know the creators of the show are reading over you're shoulder, be a little discreet, you know? Thirty LJ posts are still a lot less public than a thread on the network's official board labeled "FINALE SPOILERS OMG!"
That said:
why complain that your audience loves your show so much that you *have* to find out what's going to happen?
Yes! And the people for whom HSQ is a valuable part of the viewing experience don't spoil. So the show isn't "ruined" for anyone. (Barring accidental spoilage, which of course does happen, but it's not the norm, and it's something the spoiler community strives to avoid.)
Anyway, venting over. Moving on.
Honestly, I do think it was fairly stupid of people to start posting links on the SciFi.com boards -- if you know the creators of the show are reading over you're shoulder, be a little discreet, you know? Thirty LJ posts are still a lot less public than a thread on the network's official board labeled "FINALE SPOILERS OMG!"
Heh. Okay, I didn't know that context. That's pretty stupid. And a large part of the reason I have no desire to post on "official" boards.
Does anyone know what happened at TWoP with the BSG finale spoilage? Some posts were deleted, so it was hard for me to follow. I could be wrong, but I think Jacob had to spoil himself, in order to remove spoilers from the spoiler thread. What I can't figure out is why he had to remove spoilers from the spoiler thread. It didn't look like anyone was warned (in fact, I recall a post or two from Jacob noting something was deleted, but no warnings resulted).
Well, and also it was way more difficult to get ahold of stuff like sides and spoilers during the Joss heyday. The online community would pass it around hush-hush so well that it was like fight club. Today, you're like as not going to see thirty livejournal posts blaring the same information, which means a wider spread.
Wow, we're in different LJ circles. For me, Mutant Enemy spoilers were the easiest picking. The spoilers I typically see now pale in comparison, and often aren't worth the trouble it takes to hunt them down.
I remember stumbling across a news feed photo of Bianca Lawson as Kendra a week before "What's My Line Pt. 1" aired.
I was talking pre-LJ.
I just meant I seldom find spoilers of the quality I found when spoiling for Buffy and Angel (and almost all of Buffy was pre-LJ for me). I never had trouble finding them.
The guy gets around, oneirically speaking.
Johanna had a dream where Browder was a serial killer. So, reasonably enough, she decided that she shouldn't go off alone with him.
Making out with him in public was perfectly fine, though.
he's got more of an outlet to whine about this than Joss & Co did, but I honestly don't remember spoilers being taken so seriously back in the old days.
Seriously? I do. At least once Whedon got all "true fans don't read spoilers" about it, because I remember the reaction. Ah, this is probably it:
WHEDON: It drives me up the frigging wall that I can't keep secrets, that I can't keep things off the Internet. The crewmembers of my own shows are feeding things to the Internet so that people will know what happens before it happens.
IGNFF: Where's the respect for the chain of command?
WHEDON: Apparently, the chain is only as strong as – well, that weak link that's me. It's not respect for the chain of command, it's respect for storytelling. People just don't have it. But you know what? Not everybody reads spoilers, not everybody lives that way. Those are the people that really love the show. I cannot conceive of a person who wants to know what happens. People who turn to the last page of a book – what universe did they come from? I don't understand it.
Diplomatic! But I can understand why it bothers writers, and why they try to out-scheme the spoiler community. I think the stuff about Starbuck was pretty amusing, actually, but that's me.
why complain that your audience loves your show so much that you *have* to find out what's going to happen?
Because that's not the only reason people share/read spoilers. I'm not sure that it's the main reason. Because people go in having already decided that they're going to hate some plot point. Or don't watch at all because they're mad about a spoiler. Or expect to love something, and get furious when it doesn't happen as described. How many times have you seen fans protesting storylines that
they haven't even seen yet?
Or freaking out over a word choice made by someone who is summarizing a plotline based on something they heard from a friend who was on the set as an extra?
I have no problem with people reading/sharing spoilers; I do it myself, obviously. But it seems disingenuous to claim that spoilers are just a pure expression of love and puppies and rainbows.
Or don't watch at all because they're mad about a spoiler.
This is the part I don't believe. I know people say they're not going to watch, but I don't buy for a second that it's actually true.
As for people freaking out, well they do that with promos too, don't they? It's different in degree with spoilers, but not in kind. People freak out over a lot of things.
You're not wrong, Strega. The
Veronica Mars
fandom is in total meltdown and a lot of it is over spoilers.
Because people go in having already decided that they're going to hate some plot point.
This, particularly, seems to me to happen when there is hardcore 'shipping in the spoiler mix.
That said, for me, spoiling is always either an act of love+puppies+rainbows, or an act of self-preservation. I'm often much happier with a show when I let myself spoil for it, and a lot of times when people are railing against spoilers, I find myself liking the spoilers more, because I'm contrary like that.
This is the part I don't believe. I know people say they're not going to watch, but I don't buy for a second that it's actually true.
I agree with this though, too.
As for people freaking out, well they do that with promos too, don't they? It's different in degree with spoilers, but not in kind. People freak out over a lot of things.
I do see people flipping more about spoilers than promos. It may be a matter of degrees, but still.
