A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks.

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2007 8:28:46 am PDT #9882 of 10001
What is even happening?

You're not wrong, Strega. The Veronica Mars fandom is in total meltdown and a lot of it is over spoilers.

Because people go in having already decided that they're going to hate some plot point.

This, particularly, seems to me to happen when there is hardcore 'shipping in the spoiler mix.

That said, for me, spoiling is always either an act of love+puppies+rainbows, or an act of self-preservation. I'm often much happier with a show when I let myself spoil for it, and a lot of times when people are railing against spoilers, I find myself liking the spoilers more, because I'm contrary like that.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2007 8:30:52 am PDT #9883 of 10001
What is even happening?

This is the part I don't believe. I know people say they're not going to watch, but I don't buy for a second that it's actually true.
I agree with this though, too.
As for people freaking out, well they do that with promos too, don't they? It's different in degree with spoilers, but not in kind. People freak out over a lot of things.
I do see people flipping more about spoilers than promos. It may be a matter of degrees, but still.


Ginger - Apr 11, 2007 8:32:31 am PDT #9884 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

People who turn to the last page of a book – what universe did they come from?

From whatever universe I come from. I'm much more interested in the writing and how a story unfolds than I am in being surprised. I'm more interested in the journey than the destination.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 11, 2007 8:33:58 am PDT #9885 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I do see people flipping more about spoilers than promos. It may be a matter of degrees, but still.

Given how misleading so many promos are, this doesn't surprise me at all.


Fred Pete - Apr 11, 2007 9:13:46 am PDT #9886 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I cannot conceive of a person who wants to know what happens.

I don't get this part. If we don't want to know what happens, we won't watch the show.

Unless Joss meant, who wants to know so badly that they'll skip the journey there, or the context, or the like.


Jon B. - Apr 11, 2007 9:17:51 am PDT #9887 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Unless Joss meant, who wants to know so badly that they'll skip the journey there, or the context, or the like.

That's exactly what he meant when he said "People who turn to the last page of a book". He meant "skip to the end", not "read the last page after reading all the other pages before it."


Vortex - Apr 11, 2007 9:18:07 am PDT #9888 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm with Joss. Of course, we all know that i'm a spoiler nazi. For me, it ruins the story if I know what happened. I remember when I was spoiled for "Becoming", I knew Angel was going to turn human, but I was just waiting for it to happen, and then I enjoyed the show. Maybe it's just the way I process information. Ginger likes the journey, even when she knows the ending. If I know the ending, I just want to get there as quick as possible. If I don't know the ending, I can enjoy the ride.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2007 9:19:46 am PDT #9889 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'm just the opposite (sometimes, I actually don't spoil much for anything, any more). If I know the ending, I can enjoy the ride.


Fred Pete - Apr 11, 2007 9:23:12 am PDT #9890 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Agreed, there's a difference between reading the whole book in order and reading the last page first. I guess the sentence just leaped at me out of context because much of the appeal of arc-y shows like Buffy and Angel is, what happens next?


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 11, 2007 10:35:55 am PDT #9891 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think there's a danger of depending so much on the HSQ that the viewing experience won't hold up to repetition.

I've found that if I'm REALLY into a show, I want to remain unspoiled, at least for season finales. But being spoiled for things I'm only lukewarm about seems to increase my viewing pleasure. And it definitely helps if I know about something I won't like ahead of time—the spoiler gives me time to process and accept.