Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Man, the Life on Mars whitefont is killing me. And the thing is, I have the entire series two ahemed but haven't had the chance to watch anything past episode 2. I know I'd be better served by resisting WF and watching the eps unspoiled, but MAN. It's tempting.
Someone on my Flist a few days ago linked to this clip: [link]
I haven't watched
24 Hour Party People,
but apparently John Simm was in it and he played the New Order front man Bernard Sumner? (Must Netflix right now OMG!) The clips shows Simm singing with Sumner in a New Order concert, and he has this cute leather jacket-over-hoodie outfit on, and he's all shy about being pulled into stage, then you could see him go, "oh, what the hell" and belting it out with all he's got, and really, it's fucking adorable.
It also helps that I just fell for New Order, 20 years behind everyone else.
Well, and also it was way more difficult to get ahold of stuff like sides and spoilers during the Joss heyday. The online community would pass it around hush-hush so well that it was like fight club. Today, you're like as not going to see thirty livejournal posts blaring the same information, which means a wider spread.
I do think it's kind of ridiculous to bitch about spoilers, though. The folks who care enough to hunt down the spoilers are the avid watchers of the show, so why complain that your audience loves your show so much that you *have* to find out what's going to happen?
And the thing is, I have the entire series two ahemed but haven't had the chance to watch anything past episode 2.
YES. sigh.
Honestly, I do think it was fairly stupid of people to start posting links on the SciFi.com boards -- if you know the creators of the show are reading over you're shoulder, be a little discreet, you know? Thirty LJ posts are still a lot less public than a thread on the network's official board labeled "FINALE SPOILERS OMG!"
That said:
why complain that your audience loves your show so much that you *have* to find out what's going to happen?
Yes! And the people for whom HSQ is a valuable part of the viewing experience don't spoil. So the show isn't "ruined" for anyone. (Barring accidental spoilage, which of course does happen, but it's not the norm, and it's something the spoiler community strives to avoid.)
Anyway, venting over. Moving on.
Honestly, I do think it was fairly stupid of people to start posting links on the SciFi.com boards -- if you know the creators of the show are reading over you're shoulder, be a little discreet, you know? Thirty LJ posts are still a lot less public than a thread on the network's official board labeled "FINALE SPOILERS OMG!"
Heh. Okay, I didn't know that context. That's pretty stupid. And a large part of the reason I have no desire to post on "official" boards.
Does anyone know what happened at TWoP with the BSG finale spoilage? Some posts were deleted, so it was hard for me to follow. I could be wrong, but I think Jacob had to spoil himself, in order to remove spoilers from the spoiler thread. What I can't figure out is why he had to remove spoilers from the spoiler thread. It didn't look like anyone was warned (in fact, I recall a post or two from Jacob noting something was deleted, but no warnings resulted).
Well, and also it was way more difficult to get ahold of stuff like sides and spoilers during the Joss heyday. The online community would pass it around hush-hush so well that it was like fight club. Today, you're like as not going to see thirty livejournal posts blaring the same information, which means a wider spread.
Wow, we're in different LJ circles. For me, Mutant Enemy spoilers were the easiest picking. The spoilers I typically see now pale in comparison, and often aren't worth the trouble it takes to hunt them down.
I remember stumbling across a news feed photo of Bianca Lawson as Kendra a week before "What's My Line Pt. 1" aired.
I was talking pre-LJ.
I just meant I seldom find spoilers of the quality I found when spoiling for Buffy and Angel (and almost all of Buffy was pre-LJ for me). I never had trouble finding them.
The guy gets around, oneirically speaking.
Johanna had a dream where Browder was a serial killer. So, reasonably enough, she decided that she shouldn't go off alone with him.
Making out with him in public was perfectly fine, though.
he's got more of an outlet to whine about this than Joss & Co did, but I honestly don't remember spoilers being taken so seriously back in the old days.
Seriously? I do. At least once Whedon got all "true fans don't read spoilers" about it, because I remember the reaction. Ah, this is probably it:
WHEDON: It drives me up the frigging wall that I can't keep secrets, that I can't keep things off the Internet. The crewmembers of my own shows are feeding things to the Internet so that people will know what happens before it happens.
IGNFF: Where's the respect for the chain of command?
WHEDON: Apparently, the chain is only as strong as – well, that weak link that's me. It's not respect for the chain of command, it's respect for storytelling. People just don't have it. But you know what? Not everybody reads spoilers, not everybody lives that way. Those are the people that really love the show. I cannot conceive of a person who wants to know what happens. People who turn to the last page of a book – what universe did they come from? I don't understand it.
Diplomatic! But I can understand why it bothers writers, and why they try to out-scheme the spoiler community. I think the stuff about Starbuck was pretty amusing, actually, but that's me.
why complain that your audience loves your show so much that you *have* to find out what's going to happen?
Because that's not the only reason people share/read spoilers. I'm not sure that it's the main reason. Because people go in having already decided that they're going to hate some plot point. Or don't watch at all because they're mad about a spoiler. Or expect to love something, and get furious when it doesn't happen as described. How many times have you seen fans protesting storylines that
they haven't even seen yet?
Or freaking out over a word choice made by someone who is summarizing a plotline based on something they heard from a friend who was on the set as an extra?
I have no problem with people reading/sharing spoilers; I do it myself, obviously. But it seems disingenuous to claim that spoilers are just a pure expression of love and puppies and rainbows.
