I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 25, 2007 9:32:03 pm PDT #8685 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think her American is better than Ben's SebaceanAustralish.


Anne W. - Mar 26, 2007 12:30:51 am PDT #8686 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I may be opening a can of worms, here, but it seems to me that Chief and the others were quick to identify themselves as Cylons. Is it possible that the answer to who/what they are isn't quite so simple?


Theodosia - Mar 26, 2007 1:28:08 am PDT #8687 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Hi, maggiesox, and welcome! That interpretation of the song is going to give me a lot to chew on for the ::BIG!SIGH:: next 9 months or so.

I feel like I have to rewatch the last four episodes before I have a more coherent opinion. Until then I'm going with chrismg:

"And now, if you give us TEN MONTHS to THINK REAL HARD, we'll explain how this all MAKES SENSE!"


le nubian - Mar 26, 2007 2:20:07 am PDT #8688 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

More about the song:

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Theodosia - Mar 26, 2007 2:21:51 am PDT #8689 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Now that I've had a few minutes to think about it, I'm formulating a theory where it turns out that Bob Dylan is the fifth Cylon.

I may need more caffeine.


Jessica - Mar 26, 2007 2:24:13 am PDT #8690 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

it seems to me that Chief and the others were quick to identify themselves as Cylons. Is it possible that the answer to who/what they are isn't quite so simple?

I think they are Cylons, but that the Final Five are a different sort of Cylon than the 7 we've already met. The screener I saw a few weeks ago didn't have the effects finished, so I didn't realize that they were AT the nebula when the "switch" was flipped and they all woke up -- I'd already been assuming that the Final Five were connected to Earth (because of the song - I can't remember another instance of a real-life song from Earth being used in the show), and now I'm sure of it. The music gets increasingly louder the closer they get to the nebula (and therefore Earth), and I think it's being close to Earth that activated them.


Kate P. - Mar 26, 2007 2:48:03 am PDT #8691 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

The thing that is ridiculously awesome, and here is the part where I put on my music nerd hat: 'All Along the Watchtower' is a song written in reverse.

Huh, really? I'd never heard that before. Do you know why it was written that way, maggiesox? (And welcome!)

So it turns out that I *love* the idea of Chief, Tigh, Tory, and Sam being Cylons. LOVE. Like, I was ready to give up on the show, but this (and the reappearance of Kara) has sucked me right back in. I'm excited to find out what they'll do now, and what their mission was (or if they'll ever know for sure), and whether or not they're fundamentally different from the Cylons we know already, and what's going to happen to Chief and Cally's baby. Oh -- it just occurred to me that Chief being a Cylon might go some way towards explaining that scene where he beats the crap out of Cally (which was never really explained, was it?). Hmm.


Laura - Mar 26, 2007 4:00:33 am PDT #8692 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

BSG: Of course we would have a song that has been picked apart and analyzed bunches. Shiny! The Final Five are different from the rest but we don't know how they are different. Bad ass revolutionary different? Or the four may not be Cylon at all, but have been deluded into thinking they are. I'm thinking more that they are Cylon, but not on the same mission as the others.

eta: Welcome maggiesox!


DCJensen - Mar 26, 2007 4:04:29 am PDT #8693 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm amused at the All along the Watchtower stuff. Especially since I made this quick-and-dirty music video of the season two final three minutes last year.

[link]

(23 MB, WMV)


sumi - Mar 26, 2007 4:28:48 am PDT #8694 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Jessica, I'm thinking the same thing: the final five (assuming that Kara is one of them) are activated by closeness to Earth so their mission has something to do with earth.

And was "All Along the Watchtower" one of the songs in the Voyager space probe?