Spike ,'Chosen'
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But for it to not work at the beginning, and then work thirty minutes later, that bothered me.
Ummmm, possibly Sam disappeared leaving his phone behind in his other jeans? On mute, so Dean never heard it ringing when he called it? *hands waving across America*
didn't Dean say something about Sam's phone going straight to voicemail when he called? indicating that the phone was turned off. GPS couldn't be activated in that case, right? of course, i could be misremembering and he just said he got his voicemail.
Y'know, I never really disliked Jo until now, when she asked Dean that question.
Which question was that?
didn't Dean say something about Sam's phone going straight to voicemail when he called? indicating that the phone was turned off. GPS couldn't be activated in that case, right? of course, i could be misremembering and he just said he got his voicemail.
Dean said he was getting nothing but voicemail, but I can't remember if he said it was ringing or not first. But yeah, if the phones off, it can't be tracked. (Or least that's what Veronica Mars taught me.)
Which question was that?
"He's possessed?" (That may be a bit of a paraphrase, but I think that's the question that's being referenced. I give Dean credit for not just bitch-slapping her upside the haid.)
And that was particularly stupid of Jo, since at the beginning of her bondage scene, she said rather emphatically that "You're not Sam."
"He's possessed?" (That may be a bit of a paraphrase, but I think that's the question that's being referenced. I give Dean credit for not just bitch-slapping her upside the haid.)
I had big problems with how Jo was written this ep, but oddly, that wasn't one of them, because I paired it with the "It's holy water, you demonic son of a bitch" (or whatever the exact phrase was) as rather clunky exposition in case people weren't getting what was going on.
Yeah, I have maybe watched too many vampire shows, but the hissing and the smoking and the screaming made it pretty clear it wasn't Fresca. And he wasn't human.
I didn't know about the bit where Dean said it would hurt the demon but not hurt Sam? Does that have canonical precedence? That the host is separate from the demon in that way?
I'm still fairly new to this show, so...
I guess, that the smoking wasn't Sam's skin burning but the demonic essence inside of him.
Reasons Why Dean Would Keep the GPS Off
1. They're still in theory trying to low-profile it.
2. No reason during the first week to suspect Sam was doing anything bad.
3. Dean's initially walking that fine line between needing to find Sam, and not driving him further away.
We've never really been given evidence that anything happens to the host body of a possessing demon when splashed with holy water. Aside from the smoke/steam and the possessee reacting in pain, there's been no visible effect in the form of burns or lesions or the like. And Sam and Dean were willing to risk splashing holy water on their father when he was obviously hurt to (unsuccessfuly) try to determine if he was possessed. The idea that it doesn't harm the host doesn't seem to go against what we've seen so far.
On the flipside, we know from Meg that a possessed person can shrug off mortal injury due the demonic influence, but the body is still damaged, and once the demon leaves, the host dies if the wounds were fatal. (I have no idea if, should the demon remain in possession for long enough, the host body can eventually heal from otherwise fatal wounds.)
Well, there's a huge difference between being splashed with water - which is how an unpossessed person would experience it - and being thrown out of a 5th story window. The demon reacts to these things in the opposite way the person does.