'Touched'
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Possessed Sam = way, way, way creepier than Possessed John.
Yep. I think the fact that Sam has always tried to be normal, and not live in the shadows, while John lived a hell of a lot closer to the things he hunts makes the switch creepier. Plus, I think the physical changes between Demon!Sam and Sam that Beverly mentioned made the demon version more strikingly Other and Wrong from his host.
The YED referred to it as his daughter in Devil's Trap.
Well, at that point it had only (to canon's knowledge) inhabited a female body. I would tend to presume, based on comparative demonology, that there isn't a reason for a demon to have a sex at all, being as it is black smoke and general ghoulishness, when in its own form. So it would take on the sex of the body it inhabits.
The day Dean is possessed is -- well, okay, it would probably be the end of the show, but, I wonder whether The End would come from plot-related reasons, or the film melting in the camera.
Do you think when it was hanging out with John or climbing back up out of hell that it was still a black smoke and had no body?
Do you think when it was hanging out with John or climbing back up out of hell that it was still a black smoke and had no body?
Well, in Salvation, when it comes after Baby Rose, it takes a (shadowy) humanoid shape, and then dissolves back into smoke to evade Sam's bullet. So, yeah, I guess so.
You mean the non-humanoid configuration is its default, or the shadowy humanoid?
Yep. I think the fact that Sam has always tried to be normal, and not live in the shadows, while John lived a hell of a lot closer to the things he hunts makes the switch creepier.
Someone pointed out on LJ that part of the creepy factor is also that regular Sam is such an actor, and so very good at lying in everyday life. I'm rewording that poorly. Stupid brain.
Well, is there a difference? Smoke that can bend its way around corners and smoke that can give itself nice sharp edges to seem like a solid object is all just plain Freaky Smoke to me.
Wait a sec.
Maybe the Smoke Monster on Lost is this demon!
Well, is there a difference? Smoke that can bend its way around corners and smoke that can give itself nice sharp edges to seem like a solid object is all just plain Freaky Smoke to me.
To me there is. If the smoke defaults to a humanoid shape, the idea of gender seems much more intuitively applicable. However, even if it does not, I have no problem with amorphous beings having gender, although I do understand that others do.
What I found myself questioning was Dean activating the GPS in Sam's phone, after Sam knocked him unconscious. If Dean could do that from the hotel lobby, and he found Sam in Duluth, why couldn't Dean have done that at the beginning of the episode to locate Sam when Sam was missing for an entire week? (I know, plot purposes, plot purposes. But for it to not work at the beginning, and then work thirty minutes later, that bothered me.)
Also, I want to apologize for the mangling of verb tenses in the paragraph above. Migraine medications and composition: two great tastes that don't really don't go together.