Do you think when it was hanging out with John or climbing back up out of hell that it was still a black smoke and had no body?
Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?
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§ ita § - Feb 09, 2007 10:12:32 am PST #6405 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Nutty - Feb 09, 2007 10:19:31 am PST #6406 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Do you think when it was hanging out with John or climbing back up out of hell that it was still a black smoke and had no body?
Well, in Salvation, when it comes after Baby Rose, it takes a (shadowy) humanoid shape, and then dissolves back into smoke to evade Sam's bullet. So, yeah, I guess so.
§ ita § - Feb 09, 2007 10:30:06 am PST #6407 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You mean the non-humanoid configuration is its default, or the shadowy humanoid?
P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2007 10:32:25 am PST #6408 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Yep. I think the fact that Sam has always tried to be normal, and not live in the shadows, while John lived a hell of a lot closer to the things he hunts makes the switch creepier.
Someone pointed out on LJ that part of the creepy factor is also that regular Sam is such an actor, and so very good at lying in everyday life. I'm rewording that poorly. Stupid brain.
Nutty - Feb 09, 2007 10:33:06 am PST #6409 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, is there a difference? Smoke that can bend its way around corners and smoke that can give itself nice sharp edges to seem like a solid object is all just plain Freaky Smoke to me.
Polter-Cow - Feb 09, 2007 10:38:22 am PST #6410 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Wait a sec.
Maybe the Smoke Monster on Lost is this demon!
§ ita § - Feb 09, 2007 11:09:21 am PST #6411 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, is there a difference? Smoke that can bend its way around corners and smoke that can give itself nice sharp edges to seem like a solid object is all just plain Freaky Smoke to me.
To me there is. If the smoke defaults to a humanoid shape, the idea of gender seems much more intuitively applicable. However, even if it does not, I have no problem with amorphous beings having gender, although I do understand that others do.
Morgana - Feb 09, 2007 11:41:59 am PST #6412 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
What I found myself questioning was Dean activating the GPS in Sam's phone, after Sam knocked him unconscious. If Dean could do that from the hotel lobby, and he found Sam in Duluth, why couldn't Dean have done that at the beginning of the episode to locate Sam when Sam was missing for an entire week? (I know, plot purposes, plot purposes. But for it to not work at the beginning, and then work thirty minutes later, that bothered me.)
Also, I want to apologize for the mangling of verb tenses in the paragraph above. Migraine medications and composition: two great tastes that don't really don't go together.
Nutty - Feb 09, 2007 11:45:07 am PST #6413 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
But for it to not work at the beginning, and then work thirty minutes later, that bothered me.
Ummmm, possibly Sam disappeared leaving his phone behind in his other jeans? On mute, so Dean never heard it ringing when he called it? *hands waving across America*
tiggy - Feb 09, 2007 11:50:01 am PST #6414 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
didn't Dean say something about Sam's phone going straight to voicemail when he called? indicating that the phone was turned off. GPS couldn't be activated in that case, right? of course, i could be misremembering and he just said he got his voicemail.