It's good to have cargo. Makes us a target for every other scavenger out there, though, but sometimes that's fun too.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2006 9:59:24 pm PDT #573 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The sentence reads to me that he's saying Nielsens sample 3% of the population, and that DVRs are 10-13% of the population.

I'm not sure of the power of the link between those two statements though. But I do think he's saying that the sample is not representative. Still unsure of causality or whatever.


brenda m - Aug 22, 2006 2:45:40 am PDT #574 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I *think* that he's trying to say that the show is drawing 3% per Nielsen's numbers, but in the DVR universe they are drawing much more than that, and those numbers aren't accounted for the way they should be. Only way I can make it parse and not be really screwy.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2006 3:03:26 am PDT #575 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Whoops, wrong thread.


Theodosia - Aug 22, 2006 3:35:51 am PDT #576 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oooh, it's Eureka day!

(Also Dead Like Me day)


CFerg - Aug 22, 2006 3:36:33 am PDT #577 of 10001

The DVR universe doesn't really count though.

It's assumed that people using a DVR don't watch commercials and the Neilson numbers are for advertisers. I didn't read the article but he's right that the "larger unniverse" isn't accounted for but that might be a slam on Neilson and have less to do with a pick up or not.

Wow. They actually cancelled it. Wow.

We're dealing with that right now. Timeshifted viewers don't count - they are simply observed.

I knew they were working on SGA this year but had assumed SG1 was grandfathered. Maybe there was just no point int keeping it on the air - they had their syndication numbers, and it had to be getting expensive...

Oh, now they have a great spot to launch a some of their new shows....but wow.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2006 3:56:06 am PDT #578 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

With DVR numbers, though, they can get more granular. They can know which ads DVR users skip.

I think (hope?) that the DVR will become so popular that they need to work out how to count them profitably, and how to advertise to DVR watchers. Because if the user base does grow, what else is there to do?


Nutty - Aug 22, 2006 4:23:17 am PDT #579 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"Gee, Jack, what's that thing?"
"That, my fren, is a Ronco Spittoon-o-rooter. Clears the sinuses like you wouldn't believe!"
"No, not that, Jack. I meant the purple hairy thing that's chewing on your shoe."

...and on with the plot!

Or worse, they could do additional critters in the bottom margin -- not just the unbelieveably annoying and intrusive show-ads, but a constant stream of brands and logos!

Or DVR owers will get more expensive cable, to make up for the fact they're not providing ad eyeballs.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2006 4:26:46 am PDT #580 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

DVR owers will get more expensive cable, to make up for the fact they're not providing ad eyeballs.

Yeah, but not likely.

I don't mind product placement if they work out how to do it unstupidly.


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2006 4:37:51 am PDT #581 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oh, now they have a great spot to launch a some of their new shows....

Or move their existing ones.

How committed is SciFi to a Tuesday line-up?


Nutty - Aug 22, 2006 4:38:26 am PDT #582 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

There was that hilarious Alias episode, where they were shilling the Ford F-150. Hilarious because, in the middle of a chase sequence, when Sydney was at her breathlessest, she was like, "Get into the splendiferous power-charged Ford F-150!"

And reality was like, "You mean the TRUCK?"

And Vaughn said, "Move over on those awesome leather seats. We have lots of room in the cab of this splendiferous Ford F-150."

And reality was like, "Go ahead and bleed on those leather seats, bub. And in the meantime, your nemesis Sark is having sex with your wife in a parked compact car. You need the room for what now?"