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I know Meg was a possessed human (and the demon feared the exorcism)--the crossroads chick was too?
Yeah, she was. I was also surprised about that, but didn't the demon leave her when it was done, and the girl was sort of disoriented afterward?
Is exorcism really that bad of a threat? Don't they just find a new host, lickety-split?
So he was leveraging the same thing against both of them--exorcism from their hosts? No abandonment in the circle or physical torture?
Yep.
And yeah, the demon left the girl and left her disoriented afterward.
Is exorcism really that bad of a threat? Don't they just find a new host, lickety-split?
Sends them back to hell. Crossroads demon, in fact, made a point of telling Dean that if he exorcised her, she would claw her way back out and make his life a living hell, starting with the people he was there to save.
From the way Dean and Sam have talked about it, the exorcism sends the demons back to Hell, not just out of the host's body. The exorcism itself is also apparently very painful for the demons.
We haven't been given a primer on how demons get out of Hell in order to possess people in the first place, but my guess, consideirng how much demons are frightened by exorcism, is that it's extremely difficult.
Must. Get. Torchwood. Dammit.
Thanks, guys. From what Gordon said, his interrogation of his possessed person involved pain, as I remember it. Now I can soundly vaguely clueful on LJ.
From what Gordon said, his interrogation of his possessed person involved pain, as I remember it. Now I can soundly vaguely clueful on LJ.
Yeah. It's pretty much a direct compare to Meg's exorcism, flipped and darkened.
I should trust my own memory more, but I won't. Still, I felt convinced that Gordon's interrogation was fundamentally different from Dean's, and didn't have the source material to hand to see why I felt so.
Nevermind--imdb says I'm wrong.
I think that Gordon extended the torture KNOWING it would kill the host just so he could find out more about the 'war'. When Dean started the exorcism and the questioning - he was not aware that she was not a demon herself. (Bobby expressed surprise that he couldn't tell the different between a person who was possessed and a demon. . . not that they've ever explained how you are supposed to differentiate the two.)
Of course, in Meg's case, she had already made a seven-story fall and been shot in the guts, so she was a doornail either way you split it. How much of that the real, trapped Meg could actually feel, while Evil was in the driver's seat, I'm not sure. (We're meant to presume that John follows along every word that comes out of his own mouth while he's possessed, but real-Meg had been a captive for months and months by the time we met her, and I'm surprised she hadn't gone insane.)
That was one of the ambiguities I always liked about Meg's exorcism and death: killing her (in a final way) was the kindest thing they could possibly do for her at that point; but they didn't enter the room with kindness in their hearts.