Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Ailleann - Jan 14, 2007 9:01:42 pm PST #5309 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

OK, Fay just made me put "find ahems of Torchwood" on tomorrow's to-do list.


Theodosia - Jan 15, 2007 3:23:42 am PST #5310 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Yes, that Torchwood is set in a place that's not Generic Britain (i.e. London) is a great plus for me as well. Especially because in the American fantasy map of 'Wales' it's all Celtic woowoo historical stuff, so having a more contemporary fantasy paradigm is a great bonus, too.

And then there's the characters, and the plots, and the pretty....


esse - Jan 15, 2007 4:35:18 am PST #5311 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Torchwood really isn't heteronormative. And that's a breakthrough.

I think this is what kept me watching even when I was thisclose to chucking it out the window as a load of crap. It's unlike anything else I've watched, really, because even shows like the L Word and Queer as Folk rely on the concept of heteronormativity to push the concept of homonormativity, or acceptance of both, rather. Torchwood doesn't even touch either one--it just says, "hey, lots of people in various combinations getting it on with no issues, how do you like them apples?" And I like them apples very much.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 15, 2007 6:09:06 am PST #5312 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Boy on boy? That's rarer. Can't find an example off the top of my head.

Angel technically went there in its last season, but it told (in the century-past tense, to boot!) rather than showing.


P.M. Marc - Jan 15, 2007 6:54:13 am PST #5313 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Henry Jenkins gives Supernatural a chance, falls down the rabbit hole himself: [link]

No spoilers in the text of his entry past vague ones for S1. Bless his boots, he's a Sam boy.


sumi - Jan 15, 2007 7:06:42 am PST #5314 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

New BSG promo in between Exodus part 2 and Collaborators.

Interesting.

Going to see if it's up on Youtube.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2007 7:31:04 am PST #5315 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SPN question--in the crossroads ep, what leverage was Dean going to use against the demon once he'd trapped her there?


Theodosia - Jan 15, 2007 7:40:18 am PST #5316 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Exorcize her -- didn't he have the Latin formula right handy?


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2007 7:44:59 am PST #5317 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know Meg was a possessed human (and the demon feared the exorcism)--the crossroads chick was too? I'm not sure why I didn't think she was--everyone has been so far. Perhaps because she just showed up right there on demand.

So he was leveraging the same thing against both of them--exorcism from their hosts? No abandonment in the circle or physical torture?


sumi - Jan 15, 2007 7:46:29 am PST #5318 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think so.