I should trust my own memory more, but I won't. Still, I felt convinced that Gordon's interrogation was fundamentally different from Dean's, and didn't have the source material to hand to see why I felt so.
I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.
Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
§ ita § - Jan 15, 2007 9:46:17 am PST #5325 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Lee - Jan 15, 2007 9:52:07 am PST #5326 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Nevermind--imdb says I'm wrong.
sumi - Jan 15, 2007 9:52:24 am PST #5327 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I think that Gordon extended the torture KNOWING it would kill the host just so he could find out more about the 'war'. When Dean started the exorcism and the questioning - he was not aware that she was not a demon herself. (Bobby expressed surprise that he couldn't tell the different between a person who was possessed and a demon. . . not that they've ever explained how you are supposed to differentiate the two.)
Nutty - Jan 15, 2007 9:53:53 am PST #5328 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Of course, in Meg's case, she had already made a seven-story fall and been shot in the guts, so she was a doornail either way you split it. How much of that the real, trapped Meg could actually feel, while Evil was in the driver's seat, I'm not sure. (We're meant to presume that John follows along every word that comes out of his own mouth while he's possessed, but real-Meg had been a captive for months and months by the time we met her, and I'm surprised she hadn't gone insane.)
That was one of the ambiguities I always liked about Meg's exorcism and death: killing her (in a final way) was the kindest thing they could possibly do for her at that point; but they didn't enter the room with kindness in their hearts.
Consuela - Jan 15, 2007 10:06:27 am PST #5329 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
When Dean started the exorcism and the questioning - he was not aware that she was not a demon herself.
Good point, especially since the YED appears capable of moving magically in a way that most humans can't, which would not make you think "possessed person". See his meeting with John in the hospital, or when he showed up in that bedroom to kill Rose's mother and then disappeared before Sam could shoot him. None of the other demons we've met could disappear like that.
But clearly the YED has different skills than his "children" do. Meg may have had great strength and hearing, but she couldn't communicate with YED without using fresh blood as a medium, and I'm sure she couldn't possess a Repear. Whereas it's pretty clear that YED is keeping very close tabs on Sam and Dean, and if he can't read their minds, he at least knows where Sam is all the time...
Invisible Green - Jan 15, 2007 10:09:09 am PST #5330 of 10001
P.M. Marc - Jan 15, 2007 10:19:09 am PST #5331 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
That was one of the ambiguities I always liked about Meg's exorcism and death: killing her (in a final way) was the kindest thing they could possibly do for her at that point; but they didn't enter the room with kindness in their hearts.
Yeah, what Nutty said!
Jon B. - Jan 15, 2007 10:58:58 am PST #5332 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Torchwood Trailer
Nice trailer, but hilarious that it's billed as a "High Definition Torchwood Trailer". Uhhh... dude... it's on youtube. It ain't Hi Def no more.
Polter-Cow - Jan 15, 2007 11:04:17 am PST #5333 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Well, it is suitable for high and deaf people.
Zenkitty - Jan 15, 2007 11:10:53 am PST #5334 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
P.-C. brings the funny again.