We're in love. We're ... lovers. We're lesbian, gay-type lovers.

Willow ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Theodosia - Dec 10, 2006 5:31:56 pm PST #4426 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm just starting my weekly Torchwood aheming now... probably won't be done for hours! ::stamps tiny foot::


Laura - Dec 10, 2006 5:37:30 pm PST #4427 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Like most things, I am behind on the Torchwood viewing. I've only watched the first 3. Not totally sold yet, but I have the rest in my queue that I will watch before I make up my mind. I need to get to know the characters more.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2006 6:24:41 pm PST #4428 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For some reason the running short of water bothered me less. Perhaps because it's been how many episodes and the food issue has been completely transparent. Even introducing a replicator malfunction in Trek would seem more natural to me because we saw replicators all the time.

I need to finish the Torchwood ep. I was too zoned out and had to keep rewinding. I have these character questions I want to ask, but maybe they're answered in the next ten minutes.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2006 7:44:07 pm PST #4429 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, watched it. Liked it. Different rhythm. However, my question remains extant--what's up with the Owen/Gwen thing? We've only seen it filtered through Tosh mostly, and nothing here. Also wondering about poor Rhys.


Cass - Dec 10, 2006 10:18:07 pm PST #4430 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

and in no way sorry she passed. It wasn't a Mineary execution, one where I suddenly end up liking the character before they get splattered all over the walls.
No, I never really liked Kat anymore before she died.

And, sadly, watching the ep, I was waiting for the "Minear" because I wanted her to die but I wanted to feel a little bit bad about it first.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 11, 2006 1:28:02 am PST #4431 of 10001
What is even happening?

Why couldn't there be a planet called Zeus? I mean, are they supposed to be in our system now?

Not that I know of, but they're looking for it. They're looking for earth. Finding it will entail entering into our system, right?

The food thing didn't bother me at all. The food got tainted in processing. That could happen. I really enjoyed this episode though, which I know always increases my inclination to accept whatever plot points get thrown at me.


Jessica - Dec 11, 2006 4:37:39 am PST #4432 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

No, I never really liked Kat anymore before she died.

I think the writers were always bigger fans of Kat than the audience -- I don't think they knew they needed to make us love her in order for her death to have an impact.


Kate P. - Dec 11, 2006 5:20:38 am PST #4433 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

t lone Kat fan lights a candle for her passing

Not saying she was ever my favorite, either, but I did like her character a lot more than most people, it seems. I liked that she was tough but always a little insecure about it, always needing to prove herself. I liked her rivalry with Starbuck. I liked her big mouth. I'm actually going to miss her.


shrift - Dec 11, 2006 5:36:45 am PST #4434 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I watched the new Torchwood last night. Or rather I should say that I fast-forwarded through Torchwood last night, because I found the POV character to be so profoundly irritating that I wanted to stab him in the face. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up shut up SHUT UP.

Could've just been a bad mood, I guess. Might try watching it again. Did like Gwen a whole bunch in the episode, which was nice.


amych - Dec 11, 2006 5:37:03 am PST #4435 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I never disliked Kat, but I didn't feel like she was enough of a character for me to really like her either; she was The One Starbuck Bitched At, in much the same way that Anders is The One Starbuck Luuurrrved (well, maybe), and in both cases, I feel like instead of developing characters they were telling me "look how you're being set up to feel about this character!".

I'm a sucker for the big damn hero deaths of characters I disliked, in all their Timmy "I'll make you like her and then kill her" glory, but this was more like a "let's watch how the puppetmaster sets up the story". And it was fine puppetmastering, but not an ep where I could stop seeing the strings.