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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


WindSparrow - Dec 01, 2006 6:29:22 pm PST #4145 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Eric Idle made me run away--I'd have preferred a loss of speech, since I honestly feared I'd ask him to impregnate me.

I just checked with Daniel. He'd be completely ok with it, if I were to have that reaction should I ever meet any of the Pythons, and the Python in question took me up on it.

Cuz ya know, Python baby.


Kalshane - Dec 01, 2006 7:32:10 pm PST #4146 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Well, the episode gave us a better explanation for fat!Apollo, Lee and Kara being at odds and the both of them getting married so suddenly than we've had before. I just wish there'd at least been some hints prior to this.


sumi - Dec 01, 2006 7:34:57 pm PST #4147 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I liked Laura and Bill looking at the stars and getting high.

The older generation was much more fun, but much less intense than the younger generation.


Typo Boy - Dec 01, 2006 7:50:44 pm PST #4148 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also - liked the second half of the new Dr. Who - mostly. Kept up the creepy atmosphere. I think I like leaving "Satan" ambivalent. Either having it end "yes - this was THE Satan, The Doctor and Rose just beat him", or "this was another cheap alien with superpowers and pretensions" would have been a letdown. Whether superbeing or Satan, it does seem like it was defeated a bit easily at the end. Open the emergency hatch and kick its ass out the airlock? After all the other stuff it pulled, that's all it takes?


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2006 11:13:27 pm PST #4149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love the idea that if Roslin and the Admiral don't shag, neither of them will ever have sex again.

I so don't get Kara's secret pain. She makes no sense to me, and that makes me impatient with her emotional arc.

Boxingwise--I am not putting my hands into someone else's sweaty gloves. That's just disgusting. And they must have some mouthpiece technology for them to be able to wear just any one. Mine's molded to the shape of my teeth.

Kara, yikes. I have no idea how I'm supposed to believe she took all those body shots and kept standing. Her torso's not that well muscled.

Felt for Tigh, poor guy. Everyone did look so happy on New Caprica. And Jammer (that's his name, right?) there in the background.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2006 2:46:55 am PST #4150 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Dunno what he'd do--most of the adult men they meet are either victims or ignorant cops, which rather limits the options.

Sarcastic pop-culture spouting villain role?

I have seen those pictures! Bheerfan on LJ, I think, had them.

looks up pictures and brain explodes...


Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2006 2:51:55 am PST #4151 of 10001
What is even happening?

I so don't get Kara's secret pain. She makes no sense to me, and that makes me impatient with her emotional arc.

I get her secret pain regarding her time with Leoben, and the little kid she thought was her own, but I do not at all get the hostility she's directing at Apollo, or at poor Anders, for that matter. I mean, what did he do, other than love and marry her? I can get her feeling differently about men/sex/love/marriage after her captivity, and being generally wrong-in-the-head, but if you don't want him? Don't take/have him, Starbuck. That said, when she got out of bed with Anders at the beginning of the episode, after Scott and I stopped laughing, I may have announced she was my TV girlfriend.

I still have most of season 2 to watch, so I spent much of last night's episode wondering what I'm missing between Kara and Lee. I've known there was heat, and probably sex along the way, and I understand her history with his brother, but from what I've seen, she's always the one who spurns Lee (in our catching up, we've just recently watched the one where she shagged Baltar and called him Lee).

Anyhow, my point, and I do have one, is to say it's a little worrisome to see people who have been watching say the same thing.

I don't understand her marrying Anders immediately after having that night with Apollo, so I don't understand that particular pain. Was he still suppose to yell, "I, Lee Adama, love Kara Thrace," right after he got sucker punched with news of her wedding. And I'm sorry, but how far up his own ass is Bill Adama's head, that he couldn't tell Lee was left breathless with the news of the marriage.

It was a little odd for this Buffygurl to be hoping Apollo would spank Starbuck's inner moppet by way of beating the hell out of her, last night.

And poor D. She knows. I've read enough commentary on things I've missed to understand that Apollo/D is that love that 'all of a sudden', but I still feel sorry for her, because she's such an Adama fangurl.

Whatever happened to Billy?


Juliebird - Dec 02, 2006 5:11:25 am PST #4152 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I was trying to figure out why the particular boxers were fighting who they were fighting. Still can't figure Helo and Apollo: maybe Helo was pissed that Lee let himself go? Maybe Helo was pissed over some tension we never saw with Lee being resistant over Athena being his wife, and then getting commissioned as part of the fleet, and then coming up with the idea to exterminate all Cylons? Okay, that last I can see, cuz it forced Helo and Athena into a bad place for a bit. Rewatching, and it seems like it was Lee who had chosen Helo -just the impression I get from Helo's and Kara's comments- so maybe it's Lee who is pissed that his plan for removing the Cylon threat was thwarted by Helo. Okay. Watching some more, and based on the way the flashbacks of Kara and Lee were almost used in replace of Lee and Kara's actual opponents (Helo and Hotdog respectively), it now seems that in the end, it's All. About. Kara & Lee (4EVA!). In conclusion, Helo was Lee's random stand-in for Kara.

I'll console myself (and all of you who had to read the above) by saying it was for ALL of the reasons above :/

Chief and Adama? I wonder if they were fighting each other for the same reason as the other: anger at being allowed/allowing him to live on NC? (Chief's face of joy when he got the go-ahead was wonderful, I just had to put my hand up to block Cally's ridiculous face from ruining the pure emotion coming from Aaron Douglas).

Oh, and yes, as much as Dee has annoyed me, my heart went out to her as I watched her understanding all that was going on between Kara and Lee. And then the final shot of Anders and her standing together, both brokenhearted... *guh*

Other things I loved:

-Cottle really getting into the boxing, throwing little punches at the air

-Kara's soft smile up on the catwalk when she first gets to the "arena" (hangar deck? maintenance bay?)

-that Kat was heard but not seen eta "aw crap, there she is"


sumi - Dec 02, 2006 5:18:12 am PST #4153 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Billy was shot in season 2. (I edited because I couldn't decide if Cindy really wanted to know.)

Well, if I am understanding things correctly that night was the only time that she and Lee had sex. And it makes NO SENSE to me that she would either turn around and marry Anders at that point or do the other thing and give up Anders for Lee.


sumi - Dec 02, 2006 5:25:15 am PST #4154 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh and the preview on demand is up and is COMPLETELY different than the promo shown on tv or the one that was up on the scifi site last night.

Also, interesting.