How can this organization be considered "good" if they let an extremely deadly radioactive dude back out on the street?
Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?
'Why We Fight'
Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Tom Scola - Nov 16, 2006 4:35:24 pm PST #3742 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Strega - Nov 16, 2006 5:19:26 pm PST #3743 of 10001
Maybe that dryness is his hook, but I can't distinguish it from a piece written in all seriousness about the clichés that irritate him. How can you tell?
This is in the opening paragraph:
Some of these, like the ridiculously sexy female scientist/alien/robot/whatever, detract from the realism -- but no one is complaining about it. Not me, anyway. Hooray for Jeri Ryan!
When you start out with "Here's a thing that doesn't make sense either, but I don't care because it results in hot chicks," I don't know how it can be taken as a manifesto. I don't mean that he's not at all serious. But... again, I think of recaps. Do I think Wesley is an ass? Sure! Do I care as much about that as people seem to think? No, but it's an easy thing to make jokes about.
So, to me it sounds like: is he tired of these things? Sure! Is he going to stop watching a show or a movie just because they turn up? No, of course not. Hell, I've been complaining about the way spaceships all seem to agree on a universal "this way is up" for ages, but it doesn't stop me watching things with spaceships. 'Cause that'd be crazy, with spaceships being so cool and all.
Typo Boy - Nov 16, 2006 5:27:17 pm PST #3744 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah, I certainly didn't take it as a deliberate "We kill them" statement. It was more of a "Sometimes, er, bad shit happens."
People are dying cause they got too tough resisting being kidnapped. Considering that a "tragic accident" is taking their right to kidnap anyone you choose for granted. . That sure sounds evil to me.
DCJensen - Nov 16, 2006 6:03:09 pm PST #3745 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
NBC/Universal is making big cuts company wide.
Yeah, I hear they are making cuts in their entertainment division. Maybe next season we'll be watching Hero or, more properly, Hiro.
§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 6:06:11 pm PST #3746 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't see the nuance you do, Strega. I'm reading the piece like those ten things piss him off every time he sees them now, and my responses are to that. I don't see what difference being witty when pissed off makes--I certainly don't see the automatic "Well, I'm not that pissed off if I can be a smartass about it" that I think I'm getting from your reading.
Vortex - Nov 16, 2006 6:33:49 pm PST #3747 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I do like the analogy that Daddy and OWI are like spies with some noble mission who are not above using unsavory tactics or using people and putting them in harms way to gain their objective. Supposed to be the "good guys", but not someone you'd like to be friends with.
so, like Section One?
Kalshane - Nov 16, 2006 6:44:37 pm PST #3748 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Smallville- So Clark gets saved by Deus ex Martian Manhunter?!?
kat perez - Nov 16, 2006 8:07:31 pm PST #3749 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar
The OWI certainly seems very dark grey at best to me. There's the catch and release on radioactive man. I don't know if they know about Niki/ikiN, but if they do that's another person who they know is a danger to the general public that they just let wander around on the streets.
Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2006 8:12:48 pm PST #3750 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
So Clark gets saved by Deus ex Martian Manhunter?!?
Oh, is that who that is? Cool.
Consuela - Nov 16, 2006 10:03:10 pm PST #3751 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
What, no SPN talk?
Oh, Dean.
And I'm worried that the boys are missing the distinction between "Dad died for me," and "Dad lost his soul and is suffering eternal torments in Hell for me." The first is sad but perhaps you can recognize his choice; the second is not to be borne.
We shall see, we shall see.