Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


kat perez - Nov 16, 2006 8:07:31 pm PST #3749 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

The OWI certainly seems very dark grey at best to me. There's the catch and release on radioactive man. I don't know if they know about Niki/ikiN, but if they do that's another person who they know is a danger to the general public that they just let wander around on the streets.


Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2006 8:12:48 pm PST #3750 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So Clark gets saved by Deus ex Martian Manhunter?!?

Oh, is that who that is? Cool.


Consuela - Nov 16, 2006 10:03:10 pm PST #3751 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

What, no SPN talk?

Oh, Dean.

And I'm worried that the boys are missing the distinction between "Dad died for me," and "Dad lost his soul and is suffering eternal torments in Hell for me." The first is sad but perhaps you can recognize his choice; the second is not to be borne.

We shall see, we shall see.


Kalshane - Nov 16, 2006 10:19:56 pm PST #3752 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Oh, is that who that is? Cool.

If not, I'll be incredibly suprised. Bald, obviously not human, glowing red eyes, flies and has a penchant for Oreos. If they decide to have him stick around, I hope they get Carl Lumbly to do his voice. (Who, aside from apparently fighting Cylons this week, I haven't seen or heard much of lately.)

Another Smallville thought: What was up with Chloe and the Gramma/Softer Side of Sears!Willow look today?

And I'm worried that the boys are missing the distinction between "Dad died for me," and "Dad lost his soul and is suffering eternal torments in Hell for me." The first is sad but perhaps you can recognize his choice; the second is not to be borne.

Yeah, I can't quite see Papa Winchester selling his soul to save Dean's life. If crossroads demon can cure Hudson's wife of terminal cancer and let him live for another 10 years on top of it before collecting, I would think Daddy Winchester's immediate death, plus the Colt would be more than enough of a bargain for Dean's life.


Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2006 10:44:42 pm PST #3753 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What was up with Chloe and the Gramma/Softer Side of Sears!Willow look today?

Yeah, that sort of came out of nowhere.

I would think Daddy Winchester's immediate death, plus the Colt would be more than enough of a bargain for Dean's life.

Well, there's bargain and there's fun.

My SPN talk is: hee, MySpace! and woo, hot demon.

Also: SOON OMG.


machall - Nov 16, 2006 11:32:29 pm PST #3754 of 10001
"Would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?" - Doctor Who

Mr. Benett's speech to Issac was:

"For many years now a number of us have been tracking, locating, monitoring people like you. Sometimes the process goes smoothly, as in your case, and other times...well, let's just say people misinterpret our motives and then it can go very wrong.

Fourteen years ago there was just such a case which sadly ended in a death. A woman left behind a baby girl that had no one to take care of her. My wife and I had been having a hard time conceiving a child of our own at the time. It was like God had reached down and given us a miracle.

Issac, this is my daughter we're talking about. I'm begging you."

The man definately believes he's on the side of the angels. He helped Issac get clean. He spared the quarterback's life even though he deserved much worse for assaulting Claire. He wants to stop Sylar and the bombing.

He's also believes that the ends justify the means. Kidnappings and mind wipes are routine. He's willing to abuse Eden's trust and use her to turn Issac into a junkie again to save his daughter and others.

The comparison to The Operative is a good one. He is a believer.

OWI reminds me of tales of the CIA during the Cold War. Plenty of morally questionable things were done in the name of freedom and national security. The greater good was served, but the victory is tainted.


sumi - Nov 17, 2006 4:01:54 am PST #3755 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Excellent SPN complete with EVIL promos. Evil.

Very amusing Smallville. I LAUGHED at the OTP proposal room -- two entire hedges of blooming rose bushes and a entire regiment of candles alit and a silver casket with a silver box with the ring. Too funny.

Plus, Staticy Lex in the Teaser was just so amusing.

I thought that was Martian Manhunter. Cool.


Strega - Nov 17, 2006 4:47:56 am PST #3756 of 10001

I don't think the wit offsets the anger, because he doesn't sound particularly angry to begin with.

I'm reading the piece like those ten things piss him off every time he sees them now,

But I don't know where you're getting that. Down in the comments he says Back to the Future is a great movie even if it does feature fatalistic time travel.

The reaction I saw here before I could find the article made me think it was this tirade with a lot of "Only hacks use these tropes! Only fools are entertained by them!" And then I read a piece that's more like, "I'm tired of these things. Some of them were cool originally, but enough." The reaction, here and there, seems far more passionate than the original piece.


Consuela - Nov 17, 2006 5:36:26 am PST #3757 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

SPN previews OMG!

Although I do think it's a bit cheap for the XF team to be scavenging their own oeuvre for plots at this early date...

Mely has a great post from earlier in the season where she talked about how Dean and Sam are switching places this season--that Dean is now the one who's hanging on for dear life and challenging his father's decisions, and Sam's the one looking out for them both and pushing the Let's Save People agenda.

That said, I think a better argument that Sam could have made at the end wasn't "Saving people is Dad's legacy and we should do that," but "The more we learn the better chance we have of saving Dad from an eternity of torment."

Surely someone has already written the AU where Dean goes through with the deal and John rips him a new one...


shrift - Nov 17, 2006 5:38:11 am PST #3758 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Excellent SPN complete with EVIL promos. Evil.

You say evil, I say gun porn.