What didn't ring true for me in DW was Rose being all broken up about leaving Mickey behind.

She did seem to take him for granted a lot. But they were friends for a long time, and now she's never ever never going to see him again. (Plus she was in a weird emotional place with not!dad... abandonment issues ahoy?)

Oh yes, what the crew of Galactica went through cannot compare to what the folks who got left behind on New Caprica went through -- and that's just the general population. Then you get to Tigh and Kara --there's just no comparison.

Also did I miss where the one Cyberman saying "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!" as the very last line of the first part of this two parter was explained?

It was saying "Delete! Delete! Delete!", right? I didn't hear "Dammit!"

I thought Rose being sad about Mickey was totally understandable. As much as she loves travelling with the Doctor, there's a part of her that's strongly tied to home, too, and Mickey represented part of her life back in London. He's one of her oldest friends, and now she'll never see him again; her London won't be quite the same when she returns. Plus, these episodes were all about realizing how awesome Mickey is. She finally gets it, how he's worthy of her love--even if it's not the same kind of love as she has for the Doctor--and now he's leaving her.

I was waiting for someone to mention that Kara spent much time in a nice cushy apartment during the occupation, but I can see how no one might dare.

Well, she also had the jolly good fun of killing her companion, repeatedly.

Someone here? Or someone on the show?

Is that to me, sumi? I meant someone on the show.

It was saying "Delete! Delete! Delete!", right? I didn't hear "Dammit!"

As I recall, it was "Delete."

Supernatural: I had to mute it to get through the super-creepy scenes. I am just not built for that factor of musical scores. It was interesting how little there was of Sam in this episode. And I very much like Jo and Ellen, and I think Ellen plays nicely off our image of John as a parental figure. I figured there was probably some kind of falling out between the two families, and I guess I can buy that Ellen believes John somehow contributed to the death of William (memfault?). But honestly--would she have really stayed in touch, even by voicemail, with John if there was that wedge between them? I can see not going by the roadhouse, or by their home or whatever; but still talking on the phone doesn't seem quite clear. Obviously it's the emotions talking--but they were hunters. Sometimes, hunters die. To blame it on John because he came back alive is terribly irrational, and to paint his sons with the same color of that original irrational idea is foolish and moronic. That's not to say that Ellen (and now Jo) don't have the right to those feelings, because they certainly do, but previously there had been no evidence of Ellen treating the boys any differently because of their misfortune, and to have that almost casually thrown off seems... I don't know. I don't like it. It doesn't feel right.

Also, it blows out of the water that nice little past-canon assumption that Ellen and John had a thing. Which I admit makes me a little sad.

Did anyone else think it was cute that Sam and Dean got all excited that they got to hunt a really famous spirit? They were a little starry-eyed with fame. And I loved how nonchalantly they poured concrete down there. They're so cool.

BSG: Good, tense episode. I like that Lt. Agathon has a new nickname. I'm glad Kara is finally getting the hell over herself. I'm kind of hoping Tigh OD's on alcohol and kicks it in the next episode, because frankly, despite it being completely nepotistic, Adama needs to chuck Tigh and make Lee his 2IC. Lee's weight loss is ridiculous, but I will never complain about seeing Jamie Bamber half-naked.

This whole Cylon disease thing is interestingly chewy; I find it strangely compelling that Baltar switches sides like a rubix cube. I wasn't sure if he was leaving the bomb there for the Galactica to find, or so the Cylons wouldn't develop a cure, or because he was so freaked out by the dark-haired Six blaming him for everything. But now that the possibility is there, for a real weapon against the Cylons (and possible b-plot of Sharon contracting the disease) it puts the humans back in the game. Though one really has to wonder--if the thirteenth tribe left a beacon there for the other twelve to follow, and that was far in the human past, how could they have made something that would be a disease for the Cylons if the Cylons hadn't been created yet? Presumably the whole robot-turned-wrong thing happened after the colonies had been established and their civilisation flourished, not before. Perhaps it's just a byproduct of the beacon that can be used to human advantage. Either way, I hope they have something compelling.

I liked too that we finally got some allusion to the other five of the twelve models. And I really am enjoying this glimpse into the skinjob world--this emphasis and use of water is just fascinating. The hybrid was awesome, as a concept, because it draws on our culture knowledge of the Matrix as well as, for more recent sci-fi fans, a similarly conceived storyline in Doctor Who's season one finale. It really touches on the idea of "cyborg", almost moreso than the skinjobs do. I liked seeing the infighting, and noting that the hybrid objects, but though she is conscious she still has no vote. The intensity of the "jump" command was also fascinating. It makes me wonder what, exactly, is the connection between the skinjobs and their starship/space fighter/centurion counterparts. Is it a matter of (continued...)

( continues...) consciousness? Degree of consciousness, like what we assume between humans and animals? If so, who created that degree of difference?

It became apparent that the Cylons do not have the sum of knowledge on themselves when Six was explaining the Hybrid to Baltar, and noting that they did not understand the vocalizations the Hybrid made, or why she was making them. But you would think, for a group of, lets say, creatures created from another imperfectly made creature (human) that they would, at the least, have the sum of knowledge about themselves. But this instead points to some larger Creator, maybe (not exclusively, but given their religious mythography and their origin from the minds of humans), who constructed the intial forms of the various kinds of Cylons, but neglected to include vital information about why they were constructed that way, or whether they could change their own construction. Are the vocalizations of the Hybrid a byproduct of code, like an unpredicted output for a limited set of algorithms? Does it serve a purpose? Should it? Why do the Cylons need a homeworld?

As always, whenever I watch BSG I find I have more questions than I do introspections.

Yes. Do they know her exact circumstance? It's really difficult to know what anyone else on the show knows.