Up until the punching, it was a real nice party.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Hayden - Nov 03, 2006 8:51:00 pm PST #3353 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

What is it a hybrid of, and how is it different from the Cylon models?

I thought it was not completely humanoid, just partly, and couldn't get out of its tub. I figured it was a hybrid of the skinjob technology and the technology behind the raiders, but that was all just me thinking about it.


machall - Nov 03, 2006 11:27:29 pm PST #3354 of 10001
"Would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?" - Doctor Who

What didn't ring true for me in DW was Rose being all broken up about leaving Mickey behind. She never seemed to be particularly attached to him before and would leave him behind at a moment's notice to follow the Doctor. The only time she seemed to take an interest was when he volunteered to come along.


Ailleann - Nov 04, 2006 4:25:41 am PST #3355 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

What didn't ring true for me in DW was Rose being all broken up about leaving Mickey behind.

She did seem to take him for granted a lot. But they were friends for a long time, and now she's never ever never going to see him again. (Plus she was in a weird emotional place with not!dad... abandonment issues ahoy?)


sumi - Nov 04, 2006 5:57:45 am PST #3356 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh yes, what the crew of Galactica went through cannot compare to what the folks who got left behind on New Caprica went through -- and that's just the general population. Then you get to Tigh and Kara --there's just no comparison.


Kate P. - Nov 04, 2006 6:22:21 am PST #3357 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Also did I miss where the one Cyberman saying "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!" as the very last line of the first part of this two parter was explained?

It was saying "Delete! Delete! Delete!", right? I didn't hear "Dammit!"

I thought Rose being sad about Mickey was totally understandable. As much as she loves travelling with the Doctor, there's a part of her that's strongly tied to home, too, and Mickey represented part of her life back in London. He's one of her oldest friends, and now she'll never see him again; her London won't be quite the same when she returns. Plus, these episodes were all about realizing how awesome Mickey is. She finally gets it, how he's worthy of her love--even if it's not the same kind of love as she has for the Doctor--and now he's leaving her.


§ ita § - Nov 04, 2006 6:27:54 am PST #3358 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was waiting for someone to mention that Kara spent much time in a nice cushy apartment during the occupation, but I can see how no one might dare.


Laura - Nov 04, 2006 6:53:09 am PST #3359 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Well, she also had the jolly good fun of killing her companion, repeatedly.


sumi - Nov 04, 2006 12:57:12 pm PST #3360 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Someone here? Or someone on the show?


§ ita § - Nov 04, 2006 1:45:23 pm PST #3361 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is that to me, sumi? I meant someone on the show.


esse - Nov 04, 2006 2:51:40 pm PST #3362 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

It was saying "Delete! Delete! Delete!", right? I didn't hear "Dammit!"

As I recall, it was "Delete."

Supernatural: I had to mute it to get through the super-creepy scenes. I am just not built for that factor of musical scores. It was interesting how little there was of Sam in this episode. And I very much like Jo and Ellen, and I think Ellen plays nicely off our image of John as a parental figure. I figured there was probably some kind of falling out between the two families, and I guess I can buy that Ellen believes John somehow contributed to the death of William (memfault?). But honestly--would she have really stayed in touch, even by voicemail, with John if there was that wedge between them? I can see not going by the roadhouse, or by their home or whatever; but still talking on the phone doesn't seem quite clear. Obviously it's the emotions talking--but they were hunters. Sometimes, hunters die. To blame it on John because he came back alive is terribly irrational, and to paint his sons with the same color of that original irrational idea is foolish and moronic. That's not to say that Ellen (and now Jo) don't have the right to those feelings, because they certainly do, but previously there had been no evidence of Ellen treating the boys any differently because of their misfortune, and to have that almost casually thrown off seems... I don't know. I don't like it. It doesn't feel right.

Also, it blows out of the water that nice little past-canon assumption that Ellen and John had a thing. Which I admit makes me a little sad.

Did anyone else think it was cute that Sam and Dean got all excited that they got to hunt a really famous spirit? They were a little starry-eyed with fame. And I loved how nonchalantly they poured concrete down there. They're so cool.

BSG: Good, tense episode. I like that Lt. Agathon has a new nickname. I'm glad Kara is finally getting the hell over herself. I'm kind of hoping Tigh OD's on alcohol and kicks it in the next episode, because frankly, despite it being completely nepotistic, Adama needs to chuck Tigh and make Lee his 2IC. Lee's weight loss is ridiculous, but I will never complain about seeing Jamie Bamber half-naked.

This whole Cylon disease thing is interestingly chewy; I find it strangely compelling that Baltar switches sides like a rubix cube. I wasn't sure if he was leaving the bomb there for the Galactica to find, or so the Cylons wouldn't develop a cure, or because he was so freaked out by the dark-haired Six blaming him for everything. But now that the possibility is there, for a real weapon against the Cylons (and possible b-plot of Sharon contracting the disease) it puts the humans back in the game. Though one really has to wonder--if the thirteenth tribe left a beacon there for the other twelve to follow, and that was far in the human past, how could they have made something that would be a disease for the Cylons if the Cylons hadn't been created yet? Presumably the whole robot-turned-wrong thing happened after the colonies had been established and their civilisation flourished, not before. Perhaps it's just a byproduct of the beacon that can be used to human advantage. Either way, I hope they have something compelling.

I liked too that we finally got some allusion to the other five of the twelve models. And I really am enjoying this glimpse into the skinjob world--this emphasis and use of water is just fascinating. The hybrid was awesome, as a concept, because it draws on our culture knowledge of the Matrix as well as, for more recent sci-fi fans, a similarly conceived storyline in Doctor Who's season one finale. It really touches on the idea of "cyborg", almost moreso than the skinjobs do. I liked seeing the infighting, and noting that the hybrid objects, but though she is conscious she still has no vote. The intensity of the "jump" command was also fascinating. It makes me wonder what, exactly, is the connection between the skinjobs and their starship/space fighter/centurion counterparts. Is it a matter of (continued...)