I love that they're really doing the history of the series in a real and important-to-now way. And not doing a bad job of walking the line between "Rose is special" and "Rose is the latest in a long line". He really doesn't tell her anything, does he?

I'm not thrilled about Mickey.

Also love the unity of the new series. "Everything has its time, and everything dies/ends" I'm trying to put together where we're going, especially with Torchwood (again) because I know we're seeing hints and pointers. The "god" thing, lonely or otherwise, is going to be a thing. And "everything has its time, and everything dies" was not, apparently, just about the Daleks. But, since it can't be the Time Lords (It's not Doctor Who without the Doctor, yo), I don't know. Likely something with the human race stepping beyond itself.

I almost wish they'd gone somewhere with Rose becoming Mother of the Time Lords (or somesuch), by virtue of Bad Wolf.

Another great line:

"Forget the shooty dog thing."

Even better when they started comparing his habits like old and new girlfriends.

I love that they finally addressed DW always swapping out companions all the time. In the classic shows he always seemed somewhat emotionally ambivalent. It was good to see genuine, but guarded affection.

The "god" thing, lonely or otherwise, is going to be a thing. And "everything has its time, and everything dies" was not, apparently, just about the Daleks. But, since it can't be the Time Lords (It's not Doctor Who without the Doctor, yo), I don't know.

Don't forget that time lords only have 12 regenerations in them (13 lives). This one only has a couple left. I was a bit worried that the last one bowed out of the show so soon. Let's hope this one sticks a while.

And Sarah Jane is very much the one (of the ones as far as I've gotten) to do this episode with. I wouldn't have bought it for a lot of them. I'm only (in)to 4, though.

I feel your point on the regenerations (I've had the thought, too), but they'd have to burn another 2 bodies, at least, for that to be the ending.

It's interesting that endings are such a theme in the new Who. I wonder if they're building up to a big End of All Things.

I'm sure they'll come up with some explanation for a 14th Doctor when the time comes. Though given that this is David Tennant's dream job, we may have quite a few years with himin the role.

Remember that story about some woman he brought home being horrified by all the geekish Doctor Who paraphernalia strewn about until she rationalized that the BBC had given him tons of swag once he signed on as the new Doctor? His response was along the lines of "What? Oh yeah... that's the ticket!"

I like Tennant enough to want him to hang around.

Love that he's a geek about it. I can't believe I didn't know that.

Tennant's the one who insisted they list him in the credits as "The Doctor" instead of "Doctor Who". That's hardcore.

t is officially in love

He's also probably the first Doctor to have had a subscription to Doctor Who Magazine *before* becoming the Doctor.

And apparently can (or at least could at one point) list from memory not just every Doctor Who story in order, but every single episode name.

But I thought that it was exactly THAT which bumped Dean out of his all supernatural things must die mindset and made him turn his gun on the hunter guy. (All supernatural things except when they are your brother.)

Yeah. Or possessing your father. So, really, it's that whole family thing.

SPN was pretty good, but it would be better if they didn't spell everything out. I don't need to be bashed over the head with the moral grayitude.

P-C, have you seen SPN S1 yet? Because there was more to this (more anvilly than usual in some respects, admittedly) ep than just showing shades of grey in a previously black and white world. (Which wasn't all that black and white, as we saw in 2x01, because JOHN WINCHESTER, YOU MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL OMG! JOHN! YOU GAVE IT THE COLT!!!) (Sorry. Flailed for a minute there.)

It echoed a lot of S1's stuff, as well. (I mean, above and beyond the moments of, "Hey, is that the same bridge from the pilot, or just a really similar-looking one?")

I mean, the thing I keep coming back to is how much Gordon's torture of Lenore reminded me of Dean's actions with Meg in "Devil's Trap" and the pushing forward of the exocism, even after he knew there was a human girl in there, even after he knew it would probably kill her.

It's tricky, a balancing act, because we, the viewer, don't needed anvils for grey areas. We've been shown them over the last 24 episodes; we know they're there. Dean, on the other hand, even as scared as he said he was about the things he'd do for his family, well, Dean needs anvils. Because Dean drank the Winchester Kool-Aid. And I don't think they got the balance perfectly right last night. Much as I, like many, loved the Buffy/Faith aspects of Dean and Gordon's interaction.

I may have more thoughts. I may even organize them later. I'm loving the way that they're running with the way their world's been turned inside out, how John's message of getting the demon at all costs turned out to be one on which even he himself couldn't follow though when the choice was demon or Dean's life, how they've set up this sort of tension between this insular, isolated upbringing at this wider world of hunters, and hell, the wider world at large.

P-C, have you seen SPN S1 yet?

I haven't, and if I continue to enjoy the show, I'll mainline when the time presents itself. I've been told by enough people, and I'm definitely getting the sense that watching the last season would put extra layers on this season.

Dean, on the other hand, even as scared as he said he was about the things he'd do for his family, well, Dean needs anvils.

Yeah, as anvilicious as it all was, it didn't seem forced. I definitely liked that it led to Dean's being sort of hesitant about the "KILL ALL DEMONS" mentality he had just been pimping to Sam at the start of the episode. Especially because Sam just decided that this was what he wanted to do, this was what they were meant for. And when your purpose in life becomes unclear, things are bad.

how they've set up this sort of tension between this insular, isolated upbringing at this wider world of hunters

Is this a new thing? Because from what I read about the introduction of Ellen and Jo, I gathered that last season, Dean and Sam didn't really know there were other Hunters out there. I thought it was cool that Gordon had heard about John's death. And, yet, Ellen hadn't.