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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2006 6:54:45 am PDT #1739 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hi, Claire.

I loved the twist with the brothers. I wasn't expecting anything I wasn't expecting, if that makes sense. Otherwise...too many people a bit too slow. But I will watch the next ep, because I do want to know how it develops. So they achieved that, at least.


CFerg - Sep 26, 2006 6:56:37 am PDT #1740 of 10001

Oh! I think it's a two hour pilot chopped into first week and second week. So they took Greg's plotline put it all into week two and made hour one work with the 7 characters. Wow that's a big cast. But you could see how structurally it might cause some pacing issues.

I don't think they cut it down to one hour - which might have been easier. Just wanted to be clear.

But yes, I love me some Hiro.


littlebug - Sep 26, 2006 7:00:50 am PDT #1741 of 10001

hi ita! still think heroes might be my favorite new one so far though. the smith pilot was pretty slick. but that's more of a 'we'll see...' jericho was... weird. and i love end-of-the-world doomsday stories.


DXMachina - Sep 26, 2006 7:05:53 am PDT #1742 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

oh, god, that was bad. But it had to be done.

Hiro's buddy called him "SuperHiro" after Hiro got chucked out of the karaoke bar.

I like Hiro because he was doing exactly what I've been trying to do for the last forty years or so. In my case, no matter how much I grimmace and concentrate, nothing. No telekinesis, no teleportation, not even a single damn lightning bolt from my hand. (Although I'm sure that last is just a matter of finding the proper arrangement of hand and fingers. One of these days I'll figure it out...)


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2006 7:06:56 am PDT #1743 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hiro was a lovely dork. I did like him a lot.


Tom Scola - Sep 26, 2006 7:11:00 am PDT #1744 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is The Uncanny X-Men really that popular in Japan, though?


dcp - Sep 26, 2006 7:11:53 am PDT #1745 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

On the teleportation theme, I just heard that Steven Gould's Jumper is being made into a movie -- with Hayden Christensen, Samuel L. Jackson, and Tom Hulce. Not sure how that's going to work. [link]


littlebug - Sep 26, 2006 7:26:59 am PDT #1746 of 10001

"In my case, no matter how much I grimmace and concentrate, nothing. No telekinesis, no teleportation, not even a single damn lightning bolt from my hand. "

----i think maybe you've just needed the 'superhiro' glasses. those spectacles were perfect.


Polter-Cow - Sep 26, 2006 7:55:06 am PDT #1747 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But it was a two hour pilot that got chopped right? And Grunberg got sent to the back half for time - so that might explain some of the pacing isseus I had. But I liked it.

As far as I know, there are at least three versions of this first part of the pilot. I'm not sure what they showed at Comic-Con was supposed to be the "full" pilot after commercials were added because Grunberg was in it, but the screener was a little longer than this broadcast version too.

But I still wanted some better visual for one small person against the world. Alone. Maybe it's a comic book thing.

I think there are a lot of comic-book-type visuals, and I think that's very conscious given what I saw in the previews for upcoming weeks, which makes me very excited.

hi! i'm new. i'm claire.

Like the cheerleader! Hello.

I like Hiro because he was doing exactly what I've been trying to do for the last forty years or so. In my case, no matter how much I grimmace and concentrate, nothing. No telekinesis, no teleportation, not even a single damn lightning bolt from my hand.

Oh yes. That scene where he just concentrates on the clock, WILLING it to do something? I have done that many times. He's my second-favorite character after Claire, I think.

On the teleportation theme, I just heard that Steven Gould's Jumper is being made into a movie -- with Hayden Christensen, Samuel L. Jackson, and Tom Hulce. Not sure how that's going to work.

OH MY JESUS YOU SHOULD SEE MY FACE RIGHT NOW I LOVE THAT FUCKING BOOK. LIKE SERIOUSLY I THINK I JUST MADE THE ORGASM FACE. AND OH MY GOD DAVID S. GOYER OF BATMAN BEGINS AND JIM UHLS OF FIGHT CLUB ARE ON THE SCREENPLAY AND DOUG LIMAN OF GO IS DIRECTING AND AND OKAY I DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELING ABOUT HAYDEN BUT OOOOH.


Kalshane - Sep 26, 2006 7:57:24 am PDT #1748 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Is The Uncanny X-Men really that popular in Japan, though?

No idea, though I'm sure, especially after the movies, a good number of younger Japanese have at least heard of the X-Men. I can easily see Hiro being a sort of reverse otaku.

Though I wonder if this means Hiro can read/speak English (which make things a lot easier plot-wise.)