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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
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I finally got to watch the episode! I have to wait for Greg, or he'll be mad at me for seeing all the Colin pretty by myself.
I thought the kiss worked. Maybe I'm an easy target, but ever since Jack leered at Beverly early on, I've been expecting him to be fogged by his hormones, so I have no problem with him being attracted to Allison. There was that moment in Nobel, when they bonded over the happily ever after they didn't get as one example--but their banter and their games make it clear they've bonded. Lonely people do dumb things, and it's pretty clear that they're both lonely. Also, Beverly doesn't need Jack, and he doesn't feel comfortable with her, but he does feel comfortable with Allison, and she's attractive, and wounded, despite being a strong person...so.
I found it really interesting that Stark's emotions showed as angry when Allison left after dropping off the divorce papers. I would have expected sadness. The thing I thought was forced was when he said whatever he did that implied that Allison was in a hurry now because she had Jack on her string and she said, "It's not about Carter!" and they looked at one another like she was lying and they both knew it. That absolutely didn't work. It seems pretty obvious that she still has feelings for Stark.
Considering it was Spencer providing the "romantic" music, I thought that worked too. I mean, the music sucked, but Spencer! It kind of had to. I'm not exactly sure why Zoe thought it worked. I would have expected her to have better taste.
I'm surprised by the accusations that Allison was unnecessarily bitchy. Considering that she'd just dropped off her divorce papers and been told she was a little thing that slipped through the cracks, I'm thinking a little cranky was justified. She and Stark did that pretty-well-cliched miscommunication by sniping at one another that television estranged couples are supposed to do. I didn't see bitchy.
Weirdly, I don't know why, but things felt a little rushed this episode. They're wandering the Jeffries Tubes and Allison says there's a problem out there and they boom, go to Stark, yells at them, but then tells them he doesn't care what they do, and it was just a weird set up. Then they leave and the footage will tell them something, whoa there's the footage, nothing, gotta go back in... all of that seemed a bit weird, and that Taggart didn't realize immediately what Lo-Jack2 was seemed forced. That may have been the fault of too many previews, though.
As for his accent, I'm positing that he got to go to college in Australia, fell in love with it and thinks he's fooling everyone into believing he's really australian instead of a poor mimic with a big brain and some hazardously short-sightedness when it comes to his personal failings.
Whew.
I still love this show and don't expect that to change, but I think this episode was my least favorite. It set us up for some things, with Jack removing his ring at the end, wandering around alone in a group of obviously encoupled dancers; Allison and Stark all chummy, but it felt forced. Since CFerg spilled the beans about what it set us up for, that may have added a bit to my impatience with the episode. I'm not sure. That and the fact that they had to go back to Zoe and her friends to rescue them; the "coincidence" of the woofer they needed being right where they could fit all the extra Starks... that was a bit problematic for me.
Edited to try to make some sense.
Yeah, sorry for spilling the beans.
I felt like I had to prep everyone. I will hold it in next time and let the cards fall where they may - as I twist myself into a knot on my couch.
The good news is that the script for the next episode was one of my favorites! So I'm looking forward to that.
I'm also trying to shake thing up with the podcast - like get everyone together. So good things to come... and that's good.
Yeah, sorry for spilling the beans.
No worries (and I feel I should add mate, to that, but will refrain.) It was intriguing news and made me even more interested to see how things will unfold.
Now, Taggart wouldn't have minded if Lojack ended up dead.
Does anyone else think Lojack specifically set up chose Carter for Eureka by running his vehicle off the road on purpose in the first place? If the damned dog has a higher IQ than I, and has that semi-psychic sensitivity that animals can have, it seems plausible. The question is, what's Lojack's agenda? Is he a benevolent guardian for the town, an unofficial mayor, if you will? Or has he taken out a franchise from Brain, and planning to take over that corner of the world?
I shudder to think what my cat would be like if he were much more intelligent than he already is.
ETA: Juliebird, to take your mind off the Burger King King may I suggest the mental image of the Quiznos Creatures?
But think how pissed we might have been, Colin, had we not been prepped!
You saved us from ourselves.
I found it really interesting that Stark's emotions showed as angry when Allison left after dropping off the divorce papers. I would have expected sadness.
Maybe he was angry at himself?
The thing I thought was forced was when he said whatever he did that implied that Allison was in a hurry now because she had Jack on her string and she said, "It's not about Carter!" and they looked at one another like she was lying and they both knew it. That absolutely didn't work.
Yeah, that was a weird beat.
I'm surprised by the accusations that Allison was unnecessarily bitchy.
Eh, me and my big mouth. That was a comment before I actually got what the heck was going on (I'm slow). I'd thought she honestly wanted the divorce initially, so why the heck is she mad about it? I know better now!
Question for Colin: I'm rewatching some of the earlier eps, and noticed that Fargo's personality changes from the pilot to the rest of the eps. In the pilot he was a bit more creepy and conspiratorial --especially whilst hanging out with Warren King, which gave me the impression that he was an assistant to the director. Now he's a goofy mess-up, with what seems a lower position. Any insight?
Also, now that I've been able to smother my inner 12-year old who's read too many bad fanfics, the kiss scene wasn't so bad. I like the "can I lead" and the laughing, that Allison didn't get right away that Carter, as honest as he was being, was trying to piss Stark off, and I especially love the delivery of "What I'm about to do is for God... and Country".
Now, Taggart wouldn't have minded if Lojack ended up dead.
I don't think I agree with that. He's the dog catcher, but he uses sleepy-time darts. I think Taggart just wants to catch him, fair and square. I wonder how Taggart knows the dog's IQ? Maybe he's just assumed it based on his experiences with the dog.
Maybe he was angry at himself?
Oh. I hadn't thought of that. That would make sense.
Eh, me and my big mouth.
Well, heck, I thought you were many, so I'm a wee slow too. Of course, I seem to have an unnatural love of the show and all its characters, so I might be a little bit excessive in my defense.
In the pilot he was a bit more creepy and conspiratorial --especially whilst hanging out with Warren King
Yeah. Maybe he's a chameleon and takes on the traits of the person he follows. I've known enough people like that; I'd buy it.
I especially love the delivery of "What I'm about to do is for God... and Country".
I loved that too. Considering how much Colin hated the scene, I'm seriously impressed with the acting.
I wonder how Taggart knows the dog's IQ? Maybe he's just assumed it based on his experiences with the dog.I figured it was because Taggart had caused it - that Lojack had been a subject of one of Taggart's (or someone else's) crazy
I loved that too. Considering how much Colin hated the scene, I'm seriously impressed with the acting.For some reason, it felt much more finely drawn than some of the others of the "throwing Jack and Allison together" ilk. Whether that's because it was drawn with careful brush-strokes, or very sharp cuts of a knife, it's hard to tell.
Maybe Lojack is the Mayor of Eureka.
I agree with Windsparrow's suggestion that Taggert caused Lojack's intelligence.