Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


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Susan W. - Nov 13, 2004 4:16:00 pm PST #8016 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Another question for the group: I know it would be plausible to have a Victorian gentleman be resistent to or even revolted by the idea of gently bred, "nice" women having strong sexual urges, but would it also work for a slightly earlier era, supposing the Regency gentleman in question were very straitlaced and a bit of a misogynist?


Deena - Nov 13, 2004 4:50:20 pm PST #8017 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Perhaps, Susan, if he didn't think there were any such thing as a "nice" woman.


Susan W. - Nov 13, 2004 5:10:54 pm PST #8018 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, that would cause problems with some of his earlier characterization--it's Sebastian, who I think was still named Julius back when you read it. He needs to have been kind to Lucy as a child, and to come across as an angel of light when courting Anna, neither of which would make much sense if he thinks there's no such thing as a nice woman.


Connie Neil - Nov 13, 2004 5:32:06 pm PST #8019 of 10001
brillig

I don't know if Regency men were starting to fall for the idea of "woman as celestial being and above that sort of thing" or not. Regency is Napoleonic, right? The fashion in France was for women to waft about in gauzy white low-cut gowns--which is what Napoleon liked to see Josephine wear, and the other court women were no fools about folowing the trends--but I don't know if there was an attendant belief that ladies of fashion were innocent and serene. In France, at least, it was the feeling that marriages were for business (maintaining/mingling family property and providing heirs), and that love and passion were found elsewhere.

The only thing I know about English Regency society is that the Prince Regent despised his wife, sued his wife for divorce but didn't succeed, and that his daughter, Princess Charlotte, was well liked and died in childbirth to the mourning of the nation.


Susan W. - Nov 13, 2004 5:48:44 pm PST #8020 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, he doesn't necessarily need to be typical, just plausible. I'm seeing him as someone who isn't really all that comfortable with himself as a sexual being, and would be prone to categorize women as either madonnas or whores.

Ooh, I just remembered I have a book on sex in Georgian England! I really should organize my library a little better so I don't forget these things exist.

t goes off and checks book

It looks like the transition from "women have equal or greater libidoes than men" to "women have lesser libidoes unless they're somehow corrupt" happened during the 18th century, and was well along the way to completion by the Regency. So I think I can get by with this characterization.


Connie Neil - Nov 13, 2004 6:24:06 pm PST #8021 of 10001
brillig

He could even see his viewpoint as being somehow more respectful of women.


Susan W. - Nov 13, 2004 6:29:30 pm PST #8022 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Ooh, yeah, that's good. I can run with this....


deborah grabien - Nov 14, 2004 6:29:11 am PST #8023 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Monday? New challenge?

edit: wait a minute. Is it Monday or Sunday?


Steph L. - Nov 14, 2004 6:55:50 am PST #8024 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Today is Sunday, the day all writers spend at church, dontcha know....

No, I can't even type that without laughing my ass off.

New challenge tomorrow.


deborah grabien - Nov 14, 2004 6:57:04 am PST #8025 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I just flat-out lost a day. Huh. Weird.

Never mind, move along...