And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Jesse - Sep 08, 2004 5:39:18 pm PDT #6474 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've been reading mystery anthologies a bit recently, and the stories are often very divergent from the "standard" mystery format.


Susan W. - Sep 08, 2004 9:06:21 pm PDT #6475 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I have now had two people tell me the following sentences are unclear to them:

The stable-turned-hospital was small and half-empty. They had seen little action of late, and the dry heat of summer, though uncomfortable, offered a respite from the contagion that often followed the army.

To me, as long as you've read the two pages before it and know that the viewpoint character is in an army, it's completely 100% obvious what I'm trying to say. The second sentence explains, as plain as day, why there aren't many patients in the hospital. What am I missing here?


Polter-Cow - Sep 08, 2004 9:08:48 pm PDT #6476 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Uh, I hadn't read any pages and I got it. There was a stable, and it was like a hospital, and there weren't a lot of people being shot and in the hospital, and the summer was hot, and somehow the heat kept disease from spreading and thus people weren't sick and in the hospital.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2004 9:21:38 pm PDT #6477 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think my confusion would be wondering how the heat prevented disease from spreading. There's a little vagueness with the "They" at the start of the second sentence, but I'm assuming that when it's in context, it's not unclear at all.

Yeah -- it would be the cause and effect of heat and no contagion that would be my suspicion of unclearness.


Polter-Cow - Sep 08, 2004 9:27:07 pm PDT #6478 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, I'm glad ita didn't get it either. I thought that was something I should have known about, but yeah, if you assume the reader understands that, you're, uh, wrong.


Susan W. - Sep 08, 2004 9:27:42 pm PDT #6479 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm. Maybe I should change it to something like, "The army had seen little action lately, and summer rarely was as sickly a season as the cold, wet winters, so the stable-turned-hospital was half empty."


Polter-Cow - Sep 08, 2004 9:36:15 pm PDT #6480 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I like the short stable-turned-hospital sentence. Perhaps "The stable-turned-hospital was small and half-empty. They had seen little action of late, and summer was rarely as sickly a season as the cold, wet winters."

And if the reader can't connect a less sickly season with fewer soldiers being sick...than they shouldn't be reading your book.


Susan W. - Sep 08, 2004 9:47:13 pm PDT #6481 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That works. Thanks, P-C and ita. It's often hard to see why something isn't working, because it all makes such perfect sense in my head.


deborah grabien - Sep 09, 2004 5:58:48 am PDT #6482 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Coming in late, but yes, change the object of the second sentence from amorphous "they" to specific "the army" and it's fine. Only other comment I have is the two sets of hyphens that close to each other - stable-turned-hospital" and "half-empty" - was a bit visually offputting.


Allyson - Sep 09, 2004 2:48:48 pm PDT #6483 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Tim gave the okay on his essay. My relief, it is great. Shoulder to wheel.