You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Steph L. - Oct 31, 2002 5:12:49 am PST #161 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

The last line is tres obvious and un-needed

I know it's obvious, but that was the point -- the way the poem is structured, in decreasing stanzas.

Thanks for *all* your feedback, though. I appreciate it, and I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want critique. It's 7:15 a.m. right now, and so I'm going to go over the suggestions *after* I've had some coffee!

Thanks, truly.


CaBil - Oct 31, 2002 7:42:11 am PST #162 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Melusina, you don't have an email listed in your profile. Where would you like me to send it.


Melusina - Oct 31, 2002 7:49:30 am PST #163 of 10001
Nice is different than good.

Whoops - here's my email address: mlipscomb1@austin.rr.com.

Off to fix my profile. . . .


Holli - Nov 02, 2002 11:03:34 am PST #164 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

College Essay #2 needs something. Maybe I'm being too "accept meeeee!"?

Haverford College Supplemental Essay: The Honor Code

There's a bulletin board in one of the dorms at Haverford College. When I saw it on my first visit, it held fliers for clubs, study-group sign-up sheets, someone trying to sell a bike. Nothing out of the ordinary, except for one thing.

Someone had pinned a five-dollar bill to the bulletin board, accompanied by a hand-written note: "Found this in the hallway. Claim it if it's yours." There was no signature. It was the single most impressive thing I saw at any of the schools I visited.

At the other schools I saw, anyone who found a few dollars on the sidewalk would pocket it. Campus administrations exhorted students to keep their dorms locked-- who might come in if they didn't? All these schools had outstanding academic programs, and were highly regarded by the general public. None of them were in noted high-crime areas; students there were probably less likely to be robbed than at my high school, where it's unwise to leave your graphing calculator unattended if you ever want to see it again.

But Haverford was different. Dorm rooms were unlocked; in the library, a student had left his leather jacket, laptop and wallet unattended at a table. Everyone seemed to know each other. By the end of my visit, the campus had begun to seem like an extremely academic small town in the 1950s, albeit with feminism, body piercing and much more creative use of hair dye. I loved it.

No other school I visited had the kind of close-knit community and sense of trust I saw at Haverford. No other school was as serious about its Honor Code, and no other school had so many students who participated in enforcing that code. I have to conclude that the two are related.

I would have loved Haverford even without the things the Honor Code gives it. There's a great creative writing program, a library that thrills me to my bibliophilic core, and amazing academics-- the things that drew me here in the first place. The campus is heartstoppingly beautiful. Our tour guide informed us that everyone she knew was geeky, which inspired a happy "My people!" reaction from me. I haven't seen another school I like half as much, for so many different reasons. I live in constant fear that the application you read before mine will belong to someone so brilliant and accomplished that, in comparison, I will look even shabbier than I am. The atmosphere the Honor Code creates on your campus was just the straw that made some poor metaphorical camel fall to its knees with a resounding crack.

Haverford’s Honor Code makes an already amazing campus a place that I despair at being good enough for. The student body seems astonishingly close-knit and involved in the running of their school-- especially to someone coming from a school like mine, where "school spirit" is an interesting concept but has little practical application. I’d love to feel about a school the way Haverford students seem to feel about theirs. I hope I get a chance to.


Rebecca Lizard - Nov 02, 2002 12:06:48 pm PST #165 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I'd accept you. But I am a sixteen-year-old girl, and not a college board.

... Sorry about that.


Jesse - Nov 02, 2002 12:09:24 pm PST #166 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I like it, Holli. I imagine schools have some interest in accepting the people who really want to go there, and you've articulated why you do in a wonderfully concrete way.


Alibelle - Nov 02, 2002 1:28:32 pm PST #167 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

What a wonderful essay, Holli! And I'd so totally accept you. In fact, right now I'm even thinking of transferring to Haverford. Except I'm really lazy, so forget that.

I don't think you really need to include your fear about the essay before yours, but it doesn't hurt anything, and it leads to your hilarious camel, which I've grown attached to, so yeah... where was I going with this?

I hope I get a chance to.

I would change this sentence so that it doesn't end in a preposition, especially since it's the last sentence of the essay, where it will be remembered most. You could even change it to just "I hope I get a chance to do so" and it would be fine.


erikaj - Nov 02, 2002 2:04:36 pm PST #168 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Holli! good work. They'd have to be on monkey crack not to take you.


Beverly - Nov 02, 2002 3:02:07 pm PST #169 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I want to go to Haverford. I think it worked.


John H - Nov 02, 2002 4:40:27 pm PST #170 of 10001

Very nice indeed, Holli.

A couple of points:

I live in constant fear that the application you read before mine will belong to someone so brilliant and accomplished that, in comparison, I will look even shabbier than I am.

I feel that "shabby" isn't the right word here. "Shabby" to me only means dressed in old clothes, scruffy, untidy. I'm sure the college is happy for you to be dressed in old clothes! I'm thinking it would read better as "I will look less [something] than I really am" -- plus, expressed that way, you're not putting yourself down.

I hope I get a chance to.

I agree that this sentence could do with reforming. People are still snobby about the preposition thing. Also it just kind of falls flat at seven short syllables. I think it would be better, and somehow ring better, as "I hope I get that chance".

Note also that the first sentence in that par ends in a preposition.

a place that I despair at being good enough for.

You might, for instance, say something like "Haverford’s Honor Code makes an already amazing campus so [great,wonderful,welcoming etc] that I despair at being good enough for it."? That's clunky too, but you see what I mean.

But they're only tiny tiny quibbles because you asked -- it's fun and easy to read, and the spirit of the thing somes through just fine already.